Hi Gerd If you are changing style, please can you remove:

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railway=abandoned [0x0a road_class=0 road_speed=1 resolution 22]

from styles/default/lines - there might be no trace of it left, across private land... and it looks just like a usable track If there is a track following the old line it will have its own definition. Thanks Ticker On Thu, 2016-07-28 at 16:26 +0000, Gerd Petermann wrote:

Hi Minko,

thanks, I agree and will commit that change tomorrow.

Gerd Von: mkgmap-dev <mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> im Auftrag von Minko <ligfietser@online.nl> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 28. Juli 2016 15:16:34 An: mkgmap Betreff: [mkgmap-dev] render landuse=orchard

landuse=orchard is missing in styles/default/inc/landuse_polygons

they can be rendered the same as farms, vineyards etc:

landuse=orchard [0x4e resolution 20]

Reported on http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=602085#p602085

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Minko <ligfietser@online.nl> writes:

@Ticker: Please do not remove railway=abandoned, it is often used as cycleway trail after the railways have been demolished. The tags railway=dismantled, railway=razed, railway=historic and railway=obliterated are used to tag a former railway, where mostly all evidence of the line has been removed.

+1. If there is phsyical evidence, it's a valid map feature and should be rendered somehow.

Gerd Petermann <GPetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com> writes:

@Greg: please note that the way is not only rendered, it is also routable. I think that is what Ticker doesn't like.

That's fair enough. railway=abandoned probably should not be routed.

@Minko<mailto:ligfietser@online.nl>: I have no experience with railway=abandoned. I read about cycle routes which follow the old railway tracks, but I would expect that the ways building those routes have tags like highway=* or cycleway=* and therefore I often wondered why we make those ways routable.

Yes, around me there are some railway=abandoned where there are some sort of tracks/evidence, and these are not themselves cycle paths. Sometimes you can walk on them, and sometimes it would be really tough to get through (we have a fairly wet climate and the weeds/bushes/trees grow very quickly). Sometimes, the tracks are removed and brush is cleared, and then tagging to show the useful way (path, or track if a 4WD truck could pass) is appropriate. Sometimes, a seriously fancy paved cycle path is put in, and then it's highway=cycleway. So the notion that railway=abandoned does not imply that a way is usable is a good one, and that something tagged highway=path or highway=cycleway is given the corresponding routable type is good. I am into old railroads, so I want to see them on the map as I travel around, which caused my reaction. But I don't want to route on them, especially if you can't actually travel. All of this leads to wanting a displayed non-routable way. Sort of related, wanting new symbols leads to wanting a standard TYP file. (I have been sort of disconnected from mkgmap for a while, but am still using it.) I know there is support for compiling a TYP file, but it would be really nice if there were a standard (includedin mkgmap sources) file that had features for things like railway=disused/abandoned/razed and also stoplights/etc. Sort of a general-purpose standard rendering. (Sorry if that's already there and I should be paying more attention!) Greg