mapnik typ file and barrier=wall

Hi TYP experts, it seems that line type 0x17 (barrier=wall) is not visible in Basecamp? Gerd

Hi Gerd Yes looks like it and it seems for Mapsource as well Nick On 02/02/2020 08:51, Gerd Petermann wrote:
Hi TYP experts,
it seems that line type 0x17 (barrier=wall) is not visible in Basecamp?
Gerd
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yes, 0x17 never showed up in Basecamp for me either. Haven´t tested it on device then. Jan
Am 02.02.2020 um 09:51 schrieb Gerd Petermann <gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com>:
Hi TYP experts,
it seems that line type 0x17 (barrier=wall) is not visible in Basecamp?
Gerd
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Hi A comment line in my sources says: 20181219 Don't know why but lines are not visible. Do not use -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: mkgmap-dev <mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> Namens Gerd Petermann Verzonden: zondag 2 februari 2020 09:51 Aan: mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk Onderwerp: [mkgmap-dev] mapnik typ file and barrier=wall Hi TYP experts, it seems that line type 0x17 (barrier=wall) is not visible in Basecamp? Gerd _______________________________________________ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev

Hi To share other (i don't know why) issues I once encountered. 0x17 Does not show a line. Don't use : maybe only be used as transparent overlay feature 0x2c If used: Lines are visible but breaks car-routing 0x2d If used: Lines are visible but breaks car-routing 0x10201 Don't use 0x10202 Don't use 0x10b05 to 0x10b1f No lines visible Kind regards Joris -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: mkgmap-dev <mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> Namens Joris Bo Verzonden: maandag 3 februari 2020 19:16 Aan: Development list for mkgmap <mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> Onderwerp: Re: [mkgmap-dev] mapnik typ file and barrier=wall Hi A comment line in my sources says: 20181219 Don't know why but lines are not visible. Do not use -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: mkgmap-dev <mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> Namens Gerd Petermann Verzonden: zondag 2 februari 2020 09:51 Aan: mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk Onderwerp: [mkgmap-dev] mapnik typ file and barrier=wall Hi TYP experts, it seems that line type 0x17 (barrier=wall) is not visible in Basecamp? Gerd _______________________________________________ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev _______________________________________________ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev

OK, let's wait for Tickers response. IIGTR the rendering of barriers was introduced with r4279: http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/websvn/revision.php?repname=mkgmap&rev=4279 Gerd ________________________________________ Von: mkgmap-dev <mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> im Auftrag von Joris Bo <jorisbo@hotmail.com> Gesendet: Montag, 3. Februar 2020 19:23 An: Development list for mkgmap Betreff: Re: [mkgmap-dev] mapnik typ file and barrier=wall Hi To share other (i don't know why) issues I once encountered. 0x17 Does not show a line. Don't use : maybe only be used as transparent overlay feature 0x2c If used: Lines are visible but breaks car-routing 0x2d If used: Lines are visible but breaks car-routing 0x10201 Don't use 0x10202 Don't use 0x10b05 to 0x10b1f No lines visible Kind regards Joris -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: mkgmap-dev <mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> Namens Joris Bo Verzonden: maandag 3 februari 2020 19:16 Aan: Development list for mkgmap <mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> Onderwerp: Re: [mkgmap-dev] mapnik typ file and barrier=wall Hi A comment line in my sources says: 20181219 Don't know why but lines are not visible. Do not use -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: mkgmap-dev <mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> Namens Gerd Petermann Verzonden: zondag 2 februari 2020 09:51 Aan: mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk Onderwerp: [mkgmap-dev] mapnik typ file and barrier=wall Hi TYP experts, it seems that line type 0x17 (barrier=wall) is not visible in Basecamp? Gerd _______________________________________________ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev _______________________________________________ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev _______________________________________________ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev

Hi all I've also just checked this. With a typ-file that ensures all lines in range 0x01..0x3f have a representation, Basecamp shows nothing for: 0x17 0x2c 0x30-3f whereas my eTrex devices show them all. I can re-assign barrier to 0x2d, and I'd planned to use 0x2c for "Course of old Railway", but, for these 2, Joris says: "breaks car-routing". @joris what are the circumstances where this happens? These will be non -routing lines - will this cause the problem? The other possibilities for these 2 are 0x2a/b, which gpsMapEdit call Marine Boundary/Marine Hazard. Then we've used up lines that Basecamp can show in what I hope is the non-routing range. There are still some unused between 0x0d .. 0x13. Concerning the range 0x40-0xFF: 0x51... look the same as 0x01... but with a direction label (eg NW/S/...) on the line on my eTrex. However code in mkgmap uses the top 2 bits of the typ in some circumstances (for direction and long -encoding) and forcing them to be set crashes mkgmap. I'm not sure if this is a defined Garmin usage and I gave up investigating. Ticker On Mon, 2020-02-03 at 19:23 +0000, Gerd Petermann wrote:
OK,
let's wait for Tickers response. IIGTR the rendering of barriers was introduced with r4279: http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/websvn/revision.php?repname=mkgmap&rev=4279
Gerd
________________________________________ Von: mkgmap-dev <mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> im Auftrag von Joris Bo <jorisbo@hotmail.com> Gesendet: Montag, 3. Februar 2020 19:23 An: Development list for mkgmap Betreff: Re: [mkgmap-dev] mapnik typ file and barrier=wall
Hi
To share other (i don't know why) issues I once encountered.
0x17 Does not show a line. Don't use : maybe only be used as transparent overlay feature 0x2c If used: Lines are visible but breaks car-routing 0x2d If used: Lines are visible but breaks car-routing 0x10201 Don't use 0x10202 Don't use 0x10b05 to 0x10b1f No lines visible
Kind regards Joris
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: mkgmap-dev <mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> Namens Joris Bo Verzonden: maandag 3 februari 2020 19:16 Aan: Development list for mkgmap <mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> Onderwerp: Re: [mkgmap-dev] mapnik typ file and barrier=wall
Hi
A comment line in my sources says: 20181219 Don't know why but lines are not visible. Do not use
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: mkgmap-dev <mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> Namens Gerd Petermann Verzonden: zondag 2 februari 2020 09:51 Aan: mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk Onderwerp: [mkgmap-dev] mapnik typ file and barrier=wall
Hi TYP experts,
it seems that line type 0x17 (barrier=wall) is not visible in Basecamp?
Gerd
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Hi, I was / am skiing , and did not read my mail. The ‘breaks car routing’ was a very strange situation where as soon as I used those lines, my map just was not routable anymore in basecamp but just calculated a straight line between two points where the exact situation calculated correctly for an other map where I did not used those. Because of the time already spent, I just commented it as : don not use. I never took time to prove myself wrong. Maybe it had an other reason. Met vriendelijke groet, Joris Bovens Verstuurd vanaf mijn telefoon
Op 5 feb. 2020 om 11:15 heeft Ticker Berkin <rwb-mkgmap@jagit.co.uk> het volgende geschreven:
Hi all
I've also just checked this.
With a typ-file that ensures all lines in range 0x01..0x3f have a representation, Basecamp shows nothing for: 0x17 0x2c 0x30-3f
whereas my eTrex devices show them all.
I can re-assign barrier to 0x2d, and I'd planned to use 0x2c for "Course of old Railway", but, for these 2, Joris says: "breaks car-routing".
@joris what are the circumstances where this happens? These will be non -routing lines - will this cause the problem?
The other possibilities for these 2 are 0x2a/b, which gpsMapEdit call Marine Boundary/Marine Hazard.
Then we've used up lines that Basecamp can show in what I hope is the non-routing range. There are still some unused between 0x0d .. 0x13.
Concerning the range 0x40-0xFF: 0x51... look the same as 0x01... but with a direction label (eg NW/S/...) on the line on my eTrex. However code in mkgmap uses the top 2 bits of the typ in some circumstances (for direction and long -encoding) and forcing them to be set crashes mkgmap. I'm not sure if this is a defined Garmin usage and I gave up investigating.
Ticker
On Mon, 2020-02-03 at 19:23 +0000, Gerd Petermann wrote: OK,
let's wait for Tickers response. IIGTR the rendering of barriers was introduced with r4279: http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/websvn/revision.php?repname=mkgmap&rev=4279
Gerd
________________________________________ Von: mkgmap-dev <mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> im Auftrag von Joris Bo <jorisbo@hotmail.com> Gesendet: Montag, 3. Februar 2020 19:23 An: Development list for mkgmap Betreff: Re: [mkgmap-dev] mapnik typ file and barrier=wall
Hi
To share other (i don't know why) issues I once encountered.
0x17 Does not show a line. Don't use : maybe only be used as transparent overlay feature 0x2c If used: Lines are visible but breaks car-routing 0x2d If used: Lines are visible but breaks car-routing 0x10201 Don't use 0x10202 Don't use 0x10b05 to 0x10b1f No lines visible
Kind regards Joris
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: mkgmap-dev <mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> Namens Joris Bo Verzonden: maandag 3 februari 2020 19:16 Aan: Development list for mkgmap <mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> Onderwerp: Re: [mkgmap-dev] mapnik typ file and barrier=wall
Hi
A comment line in my sources says: 20181219 Don't know why but lines are not visible. Do not use
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: mkgmap-dev <mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> Namens Gerd Petermann Verzonden: zondag 2 februari 2020 09:51 Aan: mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk Onderwerp: [mkgmap-dev] mapnik typ file and barrier=wall
Hi TYP experts,
it seems that line type 0x17 (barrier=wall) is not visible in Basecamp?
Gerd
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Hi all I've just been testing constructs that 'break routing' and I can confirm that using any of: # 0x2c Nothing/Line. BaseCamp shows nothing even with TYP # 0x2d Climbing Path. MapSource shows nothing " # 0x2e Via Ferrata. MapSource shows nothing " # 0x2f Cable Car. MapSource shows nothing " for non-routable lines breaks BaseCamp routing in some serious ways. MapSource routing works, as do my eTrex HCx and 30x. We don't use any of these in styles/default/lines. I haven't tested these types for routable lines. Ticker On Mon, 2020-02-03 at 18:23 +0000, Joris Bo wrote:
Hi
To share other (i don't know why) issues I once encountered.
0x17 Does not show a line. Don't use : maybe only be used as transparent overlay feature 0x2c If used: Lines are visible but breaks car-routing 0x2d If used: Lines are visible but breaks car-routing 0x10201 Don't use 0x10202 Don't use 0x10b05 to 0x10b1f No lines visible
Kind regards Joris
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