announced streets are wrong for abbreviated street names on nuvi

Not exactly an mkgmap issue, but I would like to point this out when mapping for OSM. Using nuvi text-to-speech feature, some abbreviated street names are announced with some kind of default words. i. e., - "St. Thomas" which should be "Saint Thomas" was announced as "Street Thomas" - "E. Rodriguez" which should be "Eulogio Rodriguez "was announced as "East Rodriguez" -- cheers, maning ------------------------------------------------------ "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ ------------------------------------------------------

maning sambale (emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com) wrote:
Not exactly an mkgmap issue, but I would like to point this out when mapping for OSM. Using nuvi text-to-speech feature, some abbreviated street names are announced with some kind of default words.
i. e., - "St. Thomas" which should be "Saint Thomas" was announced as "Street Thomas" - "E. Rodriguez" which should be "Eulogio Rodriguez "was announced as "East Rodriguez"
And for this very reason the OSM mapping guidelines state that no abbreviations should be used in names. :) -- Charlie

@Charlie, That is correct, but in the case of the name below, this is what I saw on the ground (street sign).
- "E. Rodriguez" which should be "Eulogio Rodriguez "was announced as "East Rodriguez"
And for this very reason the OSM mapping guidelines state that no abbreviations should be used in names. :)
-- Charlie
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maning sambale (emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com) wrote:
@Charlie,
That is correct, but in the case of the name below, this is what I saw on the ground (street sign).
Fair enough - but how is your GPS supposed to know that E stands for Eulogio??? In fact, forget the dumb GPSr - if I saw a street labelled E Rodriguez I would also assume that the street was called East Rodriguez! -- Charlie

On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 4:56 AM, <charlie@cferrero.net> wrote:
maning sambale (emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com) wrote:
@Charlie,
That is correct, but in the case of the name below, this is what I saw on the ground (street sign).
Fair enough - but how is your GPS supposed to know that E stands for Eulogio??? In fact, forget the dumb GPSr - if I saw a street labelled E Rodriguez I would also assume that the street was called East Rodriguez!
A similar situation exists locally - there's a major street called "E. P. True Parkway" - I know that the "E." does *not* stand for East although I have yet to uncover what it actually stands for. -- Jeff Ollie

On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 08:43:20AM -0600, Jeffrey Ollie wrote:
Fair enough - but how is your GPS supposed to know that E stands for Eulogio??? In fact, forget the dumb GPSr - if I saw a street labelled E Rodriguez I would also assume that the street was called East Rodriguez!
A similar situation exists locally - there's a major street called "E. P. True Parkway" - I know that the "E." does *not* stand for East although I have yet to uncover what it actually stands for.
On a university campus near the faculty of mathematics you might find an "E Lane" next to "Pi Alley" and "I Street". I wonder how these would be announced. On a more serious note, the N,E,S,W can be localized. Even my Edge 705 uses P,I,E,L in Finnish, but it does not read anything loud. In Helsinki, Etelä-Esplanadi (Southern Esplanade) is sometimes abbreviated as E.-Esplanadi, where the E would not refer to East. Conclusion: never use abbreviated names in OSM. There is a borderline abbreviation that I have not expanded: The bus stop next to the central criminal police is called KRP both in the signage and in the municipal web page http://aikataulut.ytv.fi/pysakit/fi/4620203.html, both in Finnish and Swedish. I added name:sv=CKP (for Centralkriminalpolis) instead of using the official version KRP. I guess that there could be a tag for expanded abbreviations when the abbreviation is the official name. Marko
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