There's some weird behaviour that never happened with City Navigator but sometimes occurs with mkgmap generated maps. While calculating the route the progress counter goes up to 100% as normal but stays there indefinitely (i.e. more than five minutes). Since one can not abort route calculation on the c510 via some stop button, I have to disable the OSM map, turn the unit off, press the reset button (sic!) and turn it back on. The reason is not obvious. Today, I wanted to go to an address that I have previously entered in City Navigator. Due to mapping errors the position was just beside the street in OSM and route calculation did not finish in the manner explained above. I then picked from the map the adjacent position on the street and everything went fine!?! -Wolfgang PS: The OSM maps are the recent ones from Lambertus.
On Samstag 18 April 2009, Wolfgang v. Hansen wrote:
There's some weird behaviour that never happened with City Navigator but sometimes occurs with mkgmap generated maps. While calculating the route the progress counter goes up to 100% as normal but stays there indefinitely (i.e. more than five minutes). Since one can not abort route calculation on the c510 via some stop button, I have to disable the OSM map, turn the unit off, press the reset button (sic!) and turn it back on.
I had a similar problem with my Garmin etrex Legend HCx. Routing calculation doesnt't stop. But here there is an Abort-Button but nothing happens when clicking it. I can not do anything afterwards. Even worse the route calculation starts immediately after a restart. So I had to remove the memory card to get the Garmin out of this loop. Unfortunately the Garmin didn't like that much and did a complete reset - I had to do all configurations again and all tracks/waypoint were lost :-( I avoided using the routing afterwards. Just wanted to give it a try today using different versions of mkgmap. I hope to find a version which does not create this infinite loops to give a hint when this bug was introduced... Regards Andre
It sometimes happens to my GPSmap 60CSx as well. One method of canceling the route calculatin is to turn off the GPS, turn it back on and press the Enter key repeatedly while the GPS is booting. The cancel button on the route calculation popup is only responsive during the very first seconds and aparently this popup is already active while the map is being loaded. This is a more graceful method of stopping the route calculation instead of having to reset the GPS. Andre Hinrichs wrote:
On Samstag 18 April 2009, Wolfgang v. Hansen wrote:
There's some weird behaviour that never happened with City Navigator but sometimes occurs with mkgmap generated maps. While calculating the route the progress counter goes up to 100% as normal but stays there indefinitely (i.e. more than five minutes). Since one can not abort route calculation on the c510 via some stop button, I have to disable the OSM map, turn the unit off, press the reset button (sic!) and turn it back on.
I had a similar problem with my Garmin etrex Legend HCx. Routing calculation doesnt't stop. But here there is an Abort-Button but nothing happens when clicking it. I can not do anything afterwards. Even worse the route calculation starts immediately after a restart. So I had to remove the memory card to get the Garmin out of this loop. Unfortunately the Garmin didn't like that much and did a complete reset - I had to do all configurations again and all tracks/waypoint were lost :-(
I avoided using the routing afterwards. Just wanted to give it a try today using different versions of mkgmap. I hope to find a version which does not create this infinite loops to give a hint when this bug was introduced...
Regards Andre
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On Sat, 2009-04-18 at 11:01 +0200, Lambertus wrote:
It sometimes happens to my GPSmap 60CSx as well. One method of canceling the route calculatin is to turn off the GPS, turn it back on and press the Enter key repeatedly while the GPS is booting. The cancel button on the route calculation popup is only responsive during the very first seconds and aparently this popup is already active while the map is being loaded.
This is a more graceful method of stopping the route calculation instead of having to reset the GPS.
I found the same too on my Etrex Vista HCx. I tried to calculate a couple of routes and found they took several minutes to finish after reaching 100%. One interesting observation was this did not seem to occur (or was much reduced) after applying the change for "route recalculation sensitivity". Perhaps it was just co-incidence, but it makes some sense that the routing algorithm may make use the declared map resolution. Jon
On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 11:01:02AM +0200, Lambertus wrote:
It sometimes happens to my GPSmap 60CSx as well. One method of canceling the route calculatin is to turn off the GPS, turn it back on and press the Enter key repeatedly while the GPS is booting. The cancel button on the route calculation popup is only responsive during the very first seconds and aparently this popup is already active while the map is being loaded.
It has happened to my Edge 705 too, when computing longer routes (several hundred kilometers) in my three-tile map of Finland <http://www.polkupyoraily.net/osm/>. There, the cancel button is responsive, but can take half a minute to respond. I don't remember that it would start recalculating after power cycling. Sometimes, I have aborted it by a power cycle. I haven't experienced such hangs in intra-tile routing, only in inter-tile. Marko
Same error on my etrex Legend HCx. Routing calculation stops at 100%, cancel button is not responding, I have to forcefully shut down the device. As said before, the calculation starts again when powering on, you have to be fast to push the cancel button while not already at 100%. I retried the same calculation multiple times with the same result. (Destination stayed the same, the origin was a live GPS position so obviously it would have slight differences.) I tried routing to the same destination again several kilometers later. Same result as above. I tried again just some kilometers from the destination, routing went fine then. The map had only one tile. Regards Stefan
See it in a Vista HCx too. But it will always came back after some time. No need to reset. at the time the device doesn't respond to any interrupt. But interrupts are not lost. the HCx will automatically power down with a countdown after an external power loss. this will still happen after the route calc is aborted. Which firmware version are you guys using? this can make a difference. On 18 Apr 2009, at 11:10 , Stefan Aschenbach wrote:
Same error on my etrex Legend HCx. Routing calculation stops at 100%, cancel button is not responding, I have to forcefully shut down the device. As said before, the calculation starts again when powering on, you have to be fast to push the cancel button while not already at 100%.
I retried the same calculation multiple times with the same result. (Destination stayed the same, the origin was a live GPS position so obviously it would have slight differences.)
I tried routing to the same destination again several kilometers later. Same result as above.
I tried again just some kilometers from the destination, routing went fine then. The map had only one tile.
Regards
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On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 12:53:38PM -0700, Apollinaris Schoell wrote:
See it in a Vista HCx too. But it will always came back after some time. No need to reset.
Back when inter-tile routing was broken, I did wait for a timeout, and there was one in the Edge 705. After some 5 or 10 minutes (at most 30 minutes) of staying at 100%, it would say something like "out of memory". The message was in Finnish, in my selected menu language. I don't think that I have ever seen the problem with one-tile routing. I haven't been outside this tile with the Edge 705 yet. It has something like 110,000 nodes (in splitter.jar terms). Marko
Hi, I hadn't more patience than for about 5 to 10 min. But every now and then the device resets itself without me pushing he on/off button after about a minute of hanging at 100%. I have ne real idea of what firmeware version I'm using. The one I updated it about two month ago. Is there a way to update manually (maybe to an earlier version)? I only know of the Online Updater which doesn' even download anything if it isn't newer than what is on the device. Regards, Stefan Am 18.04.2009 um 21:53 schrieb Apollinaris Schoell:
See it in a Vista HCx too. But it will always came back after some time. No need to reset. at the time the device doesn't respond to any interrupt. But interrupts are not lost. the HCx will automatically power down with a countdown after an external power loss. this will still happen after the route calc is aborted. Which firmware version are you guys using? this can make a difference.
On 18 Apr 2009, at 11:10 , Stefan Aschenbach wrote:
Same error on my etrex Legend HCx. Routing calculation stops at 100%, cancel button is not responding, I have to forcefully shut down the device. As said before, the calculation starts again when powering on, you have to be fast to push the cancel button while not already at 100%.
I retried the same calculation multiple times with the same result. (Destination stayed the same, the origin was a live GPS position so obviously it would have slight differences.)
I tried routing to the same destination again several kilometers later. Same result as above.
I tried again just some kilometers from the destination, routing went fine then. The map had only one tile.
Regards
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On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 10:47:47PM +0200, Stefan Aschenbach wrote:
Hi,
I hadn't more patience than for about 5 to 10 min. But every now and then the device resets itself without me pushing he on/off button after about a minute of hanging at 100%.
I have ne real idea of what firmeware version I'm using. The one I updated it about two month ago. Is there a way to update manually (maybe to an earlier version)? I only know of the Online Updater which doesn' even download anything if it isn't newer than what is on the device.
You didn't state which device you are using. This may be helpful: http://forums.motionbased.com/smf/index.php?topic=10476.0#msg63357 Also, there is an XML file in the Garmin directory that tells which firmware version you are using, among other things. I think I'm using http://www8.garmin.com/software/Edge605_705_260.gcd on my device (simply copied to Garmin/gupdate.gcd, rebooted, and finally removed that file). I did that on January 22, 2009. Marko
Regards,
Stefan
Am 18.04.2009 um 21:53 schrieb Apollinaris Schoell:
See it in a Vista HCx too. But it will always came back after some time. No need to reset. at the time the device doesn't respond to any interrupt. But interrupts are not lost. the HCx will automatically power down with a countdown after an external power loss. this will still happen after the route calc is aborted. Which firmware version are you guys using? this can make a difference.
On 18 Apr 2009, at 11:10 , Stefan Aschenbach wrote:
Same error on my etrex Legend HCx. Routing calculation stops at 100%, cancel button is not responding, I have to forcefully shut down the device. As said before, the calculation starts again when powering on, you have to be fast to push the cancel button while not already at 100%.
I retried the same calculation multiple times with the same result. (Destination stayed the same, the origin was a live GPS position so obviously it would have slight differences.)
I tried routing to the same destination again several kilometers later. Same result as above.
I tried again just some kilometers from the destination, routing went fine then. The map had only one tile.
Regards
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Wolfgang v. Hansen