
Hi all, "highway=emergency_access_point" (see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Demergency_access_point ) seems not to be included in our style: only in case of a line (instead of a point), there's an instruction: delete the highway tag. But it is a useful feature. In case of an emergency, you'll be asked: "where are you?" and then ... describing the place to the emergency service can be complicated: "on a cycle way next to the Rhine river a couple of kilometers south of the town of ..." is not exact enough. Unfortunatly, no emergency access point sign was directly at that place. Finding the name of a road leading to the place helped. So I think it could be helpful to know the reference number of emergency access points nearby. What could be a good Garmin id, so that it is searchable? Regards, Bernhard

Hi Bernhard, no idea if there is a good POI type for this. I see no good use case for this when you have a Garmin device with you which tells you your position. Why would you want to know where the next emergency_access_point is? Gerd ________________________________________ Von: mkgmap-dev <mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> im Auftrag von Bernhard Hiller <bhil@gmx.de> Gesendet: Sonntag, 1. August 2021 12:35 An: mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk Betreff: [mkgmap-dev] emergency_access_point Hi all, "highway=emergency_access_point" (see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Demergency_access_point ) seems not to be included in our style: only in case of a line (instead of a point), there's an instruction: delete the highway tag. But it is a useful feature. In case of an emergency, you'll be asked: "where are you?" and then ... describing the place to the emergency service can be complicated: "on a cycle way next to the Rhine river a couple of kilometers south of the town of ..." is not exact enough. Unfortunatly, no emergency access point sign was directly at that place. Finding the name of a road leading to the place helped. So I think it could be helpful to know the reference number of emergency access points nearby. What could be a good Garmin id, so that it is searchable? Regards, Bernhard _______________________________________________ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk https://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev

Hi Gerd, the question is not so much where the next emergency access point is, but its reference number (or name). So that I can tell them e.g.: "we are in the forest halfway between WI-1234 and RÜD-9876". That's an information they can make use of. Regards, Bernhard Am 01.08.2021 um 13:05 schrieb Gerd Petermann:
Hi Bernhard,
no idea if there is a good POI type for this. I see no good use case for this when you have a Garmin device with you which tells you your position. Why would you want to know where the next emergency_access_point is?
Gerd
________________________________________ Von: mkgmap-dev <mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> im Auftrag von Bernhard Hiller <bhil@gmx.de> Gesendet: Sonntag, 1. August 2021 12:35 An: mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk Betreff: [mkgmap-dev] emergency_access_point
Hi all,
"highway=ergency_access_point" (see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Demergency_access_point ) seems not to be included in our style: only in case of a line (instead of a point), there's an instruction: delete the highway tag.
But it is a useful feature. In case of an emergency, you'll be asked: "where are you?" and then ... describing the place to the emergency service can be complicated: "on a cycle way next to the Rhine river a couple of kilometers south of the town of ..." is not exact enough. Unfortunatly, no emergency access point sign was directly at that place. Finding the name of a road leading to the place helped.
So I think it could be helpful to know the reference number of emergency access points nearby. What could be a good Garmin id, so that it is searchable?
Regards, Bernhard _______________________________________________ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk https://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev

Hm Bernhard i think it's the same if they get the names of the emergency access point or if they get the coordinates from your gps device. As far as i know, if there was a fire in the forest near by, thy also sent the geo coords to the fire brigade or the ambulance Am 02.08.2021 um 17:32 schrieb Bernhard Hiller:
Hi Gerd, the question is not so much where the next emergency access point is, but its reference number (or name). So that I can tell them e.g.: "we are in the forest halfway between WI-1234 and RÜD-9876". That's an information they can make use of. Regards, Bernhard
Am 01.08.2021 um 13:05 schrieb Gerd Petermann:
Hi Bernhard,
no idea if there is a good POI type for this. I see no good use case for this when you have a Garmin device with you which tells you your position. Why would you want to know where the next emergency_access_point is?
Gerd
________________________________________ Von: mkgmap-dev <mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> im Auftrag von Bernhard Hiller <bhil@gmx.de> Gesendet: Sonntag, 1. August 2021 12:35 An: mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk Betreff: [mkgmap-dev] emergency_access_point
Hi all,
"highway=ergency_access_point" (see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Demergency_access_point ) seems not to be included in our style: only in case of a line (instead of a point), there's an instruction: delete the highway tag.
But it is a useful feature. In case of an emergency, you'll be asked: "where are you?" and then ... describing the place to the emergency service can be complicated: "on a cycle way next to the Rhine river a couple of kilometers south of the town of ..." is not exact enough. Unfortunatly, no emergency access point sign was directly at that place. Finding the name of a road leading to the place helped.
So I think it could be helpful to know the reference number of emergency access points nearby. What could be a good Garmin id, so that it is searchable?
Regards, Bernhard _______________________________________________ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk https://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev
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Hi Bernhard The only documented type number linked to an emergency is 0x3000 or possibly any number higher that 0x3010 Having said that, this type number may not be used any longer and most likely when indexed may produced unforeseen results. R. Nick On 02/08/2021 21:02, Manfred Haiduk wrote:
Hm Bernhard
i think it's the same if they get the names of the emergency access point or if they get the coordinates from your gps device. As far as i know, if there was a fire in the forest near by, thy also sent the geo coords to the fire brigade or the ambulance
Am 02.08.2021 um 17:32 schrieb Bernhard Hiller:
Hi Gerd, the question is not so much where the next emergency access point is, but its reference number (or name). So that I can tell them e.g.: "we are in the forest halfway between WI-1234 and RÜD-9876". That's an information they can make use of. Regards, Bernhard
Am 01.08.2021 um 13:05 schrieb Gerd Petermann:
Hi Bernhard,
no idea if there is a good POI type for this. I see no good use case for this when you have a Garmin device with you which tells you your position. Why would you want to know where the next emergency_access_point is?
Gerd
________________________________________ Von: mkgmap-dev <mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> im Auftrag von Bernhard Hiller <bhil@gmx.de> Gesendet: Sonntag, 1. August 2021 12:35 An: mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk Betreff: [mkgmap-dev] emergency_access_point
Hi all,
"highway=ergency_access_point" (see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Demergency_access_point
) seems not to be included in our style: only in case of a line (instead of a point), there's an instruction: delete the highway tag.
But it is a useful feature. In case of an emergency, you'll be asked: "where are you?" and then ... describing the place to the emergency service can be complicated: "on a cycle way next to the Rhine river a couple of kilometers south of the town of ..." is not exact enough. Unfortunatly, no emergency access point sign was directly at that place. Finding the name of a road leading to the place helped.
So I think it could be helpful to know the reference number of emergency access points nearby. What could be a good Garmin id, so that it is searchable?
Regards, Bernhard _______________________________________________ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk https://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev
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Mit freundlichen Grüßen
##################################################### Manfred Haiduk, Zum Fischbach 9, 52393 Hürtgenwald e-mail mhaiduk@t-online.de #####################################################
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