About routing options, Mapsource and speed limit
The option "route" in a file called with -c option does not work for me. I have to launch "java -enableassertions -Xmx512M -jar mkgmap.jar --net --route -c options.txt mymap.osm" if I want a routable map. Since someone set by default TDB v4, I can build routable map, thank you. It is like "--tdbfile=tdb-v4" did never work for me since revision 86x. I test the Ireland map with Mapsource and I observe strange results in route calculation : With shortest length selected : Major highways are systematically avoid despite I setup Mpasource with "choose major highways first". Major highways are used only with "choose minor roads" It seems to be an inversion bug with "shortest length" only. Moreover, the distance calculated is bigger (68.2km in 8h21min51s !!!) than when I choose the shortest time (62.4km in 8h18min11s !!!) The one way restriction on motorway for example is not taken in account. I did my tests on M4 motorway between Lucan and Tyrrelspass. Is it a hidden bug on speed limit with an incidence on one way ? On screenshots below, you can also see a hole on highway. I did not found anything wrong in data... Here are screenshots (there is no inversion between pictures): setup with "choose major highways first" (motorway M4 is in orange): Choose major highways first means minor roads ! Setup with "choose minor roads first" (the hole in the route should come from map data) : Choose major minor roads means highways first ! Wrong way in Mapsource : Mapsource doesn't drive on left ! Good way in Mapedit : Mapedit good route
Hi David, It's nice that you've chosen for your example an area that I map. Since I only just last weekend created a routable map of Ireland that has worked for me quite well, I thought it worth investigating your test route. What I found: My Garmin Nuvi routed me as you would expect: for a fast route, it routed me over the M4 and M6 motorways, leaving at the Tyrelspass junction. For a short route it had me leave at the first M6 junction and take the old road (R446). In both cases, the device respected the one-way restrictions on the motorway. As you have presumably checked, the oneway status of the motorway ways in the vicinity of the River Boyne crossing you depict is correct. Although the M4 has a toll between Kilcock and Enfield (nodes tagged highway=toll_booth), the device does not avoid it when instructed to avoid tolls. However, I'm not aware whether toll avoidance support is expected to be present or even understood in the data model. It seems to have no bearing on this example. My map is derived from a single planet dump of all Ireland. That is, I am not routing across tile boundaries. I don't think speed limits can be a factor here, since no explicit limits are set for the roads in question. Have you tried your map on an actual device? I haven't (yet) tried my map on Mapsource. Now would probably be a good time to thank very much those responsible for making the routing work, and particularly for the work tracking down the pink line of death. A whole map of Ireland, routable, from OSM data currently fits within 10MB and seems to work pretty well. One question, though, that someone may know the answer to. Roundabouts seem not to be drawn in the correct road class, but always in the same style (have to load up qlandkarte to check which, but with default styling it renders in a similar orange to secondary, primary and trunk). Is there a Garmin restriction behind this or can it be fixed with suitable styling? Dermot 2009/2/23 David <david.tlp@orange.fr>:
The option "route" in a file called with -c option does not work for me. I have to launch "java -enableassertions -Xmx512M -jar mkgmap.jar --net --route -c options.txt mymap.osm" if I want a routable map.
Since someone set by default TDB v4, I can build routable map, thank you. It is like "--tdbfile=tdb-v4" did never work for me since revision 86x.
I test the Ireland map with Mapsource and I observe strange results in route calculation : With shortest length selected : Major highways are systematically avoid despite I setup Mpasource with "choose major highways first". Major highways are used only with "choose minor roads" It seems to be an inversion bug with "shortest length" only. Moreover, the distance calculated is bigger (68.2km in 8h21min51s !!!) than when I choose the shortest time (62.4km in 8h18min11s !!!) The one way restriction on motorway for example is not taken in account. I did my tests on M4 motorway between Lucan and Tyrrelspass. Is it a hidden bug on speed limit with an incidence on one way ? On screenshots below, you can also see a hole on highway. I did not found anything wrong in data...
Here are screenshots (there is no inversion between pictures): setup with "choose major highways first" (motorway M4 is in orange):
Setup with "choose minor roads first" (the hole in the route should come from map data) :
Wrong way in Mapsource :
Good way in Mapedit :
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Hi Dermot,
One question, though, that someone may know the answer to. Roundabouts seem not to be drawn in the correct road class, but always in the same style (have to load up qlandkarte to check which, but with default styling it renders in a similar orange to secondary, primary and trunk). Is there a Garmin restriction behind this or can it be fixed with suitable styling?
That's because roundabouts have their own tag - if you just tag them like the road, the gps doesn't know it's a roundabout and so it won't say things like "take the 3rd exit". Cheers, Mark
Hi Mark, 2009/2/23 Mark Burton <markb@ordern.com>:
That's because roundabouts have their own tag - if you just tag them like the road, the gps doesn't know it's a roundabout and so it won't say things like "take the 3rd exit".
That was quick - I knew about the special type, but is this in lieu of an actual highway style? "Real" Garmin maps seem to support roundabouts rendered in the colour of their road class... Thanks, Dermot -- -------------------------------------- Iren sind menschlich
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