found multiple points with equal coord.....
Hi , yesterday mkgmap r4587 gives me following message : 'found multiple points with equal coord as CoordPOI at 56.835467 37.404949....... The map seems okay. What shell I do with this message ?. Is this meassage only a hint for incorrect data ? Or what else ? thomas
Hi Thomas, yes, it is a hint for wrong OSM data, but may also just be caused by the lower precision used in mkgmap. When I see that message I use JOSM, load the file for which the messages was created and check the given area. Typically there are two barrier=* or highway=* nodes at the same place, which is an OSM data error. Next step would be to check if the error still exists in the OSM database. In the current data I see no such problem around 56.835467 37.404949. Maybe it was already fixed. If this didn't help please upload the corresponding input file to https://files.mkgmap.org.uk/ Gerd ________________________________________ Von: mkgmap-dev <mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> im Auftrag von Thomas Morgenstern <webmaster@img2ms.de> Gesendet: Samstag, 1. Mai 2021 08:56 An: Development list for mkgmap Betreff: [mkgmap-dev] found multiple points with equal coord..... Hi , yesterday mkgmap r4587 gives me following message : 'found multiple points with equal coord as CoordPOI at 56.835467 37.404949....... The map seems okay. What shell I do with this message ?. Is this meassage only a hint for incorrect data ? Or what else ? thomas
Hi Thomas, please try also if current version (r4680) shows the same message. Gerd ________________________________________ Von: mkgmap-dev <mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> im Auftrag von Thomas Morgenstern <webmaster@img2ms.de> Gesendet: Samstag, 1. Mai 2021 08:56 An: Development list for mkgmap Betreff: [mkgmap-dev] found multiple points with equal coord..... Hi , yesterday mkgmap r4587 gives me following message : 'found multiple points with equal coord as CoordPOI at 56.835467 37.404949....... The map seems okay. What shell I do with this message ?. Is this meassage only a hint for incorrect data ? Or what else ? thomas
Hi all, the message "Found multiple points with equal coords as CoordPOI at http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=56.835675&mlon=37.404949&zoom=17" is produced because the nodes https://www.osm.org/node/2924385337 https://www.osm.org/node/2924351922 are so close together that mkgmap could not distinguish the position. No idea why someone maps a lift-gate less that close to the end of the road, but of course mkgmap should not fail with this. The problem doesn't show up with the default style unless I add this line in points rules: barrier=*{ addaccess no;} after barrier=* & access=* {addaccess '${access|subst:private=>no}'} Without this change the default style doesn't create a route restriction for the barrier node https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2924385337 I've created a patch to fix this problem for good by adding a hashmap but GpsMapEdit doesn't like the result: Unexpected format of input data. Unexpected NodeID=136381 in turn restriction at (56.835666 37.404950). The restriction will be ignored. The old code didn't add the restriction, the new code does. Now I am unsure if the "corrected" code causes more trouble than the old. Maybe I should somehow detect the special case that a barrier is very close to an end of a way which is not connected to other ways? If I change the input data so that the end is a bit more away GpsMapEdit doesn't complain. Is it just a problem in GpsMapEdit? Gerd ________________________________________ Von: mkgmap-dev <mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> im Auftrag von Thomas Morgenstern <webmaster@img2ms.de> Gesendet: Samstag, 1. Mai 2021 08:56 An: Development list for mkgmap Betreff: [mkgmap-dev] found multiple points with equal coord..... Hi , yesterday mkgmap r4587 gives me following message : 'found multiple points with equal coord as CoordPOI at 56.835467 37.404949....... The map seems okay. What shell I do with this message ?. Is this meassage only a hint for incorrect data ? Or what else ? thomas
Hi Gerd & others This is a quite common physical set-up; a highway with another, more minor, highway/track/path leading off it with a "barrier" at the junction, inhibiting access to the minor highway. Often the only clear access restrictions visible on-the-ground are on the barrier, so these are what get represented in OSM. A minimal distance between the barrier and the major highway is needed to map this on OSM. mkgmap should handle this situation correctly. I haven't tried to understand why it didn't before, but if the patch fixes it then it should be applied. I've seen other examples of GPSMapEdit flagging errors like this: WARNING: Unexpected format of input data. Unexpected NodeID=936272 in turn restriction at (51.013083,-1.389384). The restriction will be ignored where there are very short section between the restriction and the junction node and I think it is just a GPSMapEdit problem. Ticker On Sun, 2021-05-02 at 08:46 +0000, Gerd Petermann wrote:
Hi all,
the message "Found multiple points with equal coords as CoordPOI at http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=56.835675&mlon=37.404949&zoom=17" is produced because the nodes https://www.osm.org/node/2924385337 https://www.osm.org/node/2924351922 are so close together that mkgmap could not distinguish the position. No idea why someone maps a lift-gate less that close to the end of the road, but of course mkgmap should not fail with this.
The problem doesn't show up with the default style unless I add this line in points rules: barrier=*{ addaccess no;} after barrier=* & access=* {addaccess '${access|subst:private=>no}'} Without this change the default style doesn't create a route restriction for the barrier node https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2924385337
I've created a patch to fix this problem for good by adding a hashmap but GpsMapEdit doesn't like the result: Unexpected format of input data. Unexpected NodeID=136381 in turn restriction at (56.835666 37.404950). The restriction will be ignored.
The old code didn't add the restriction, the new code does. Now I am unsure if the "corrected" code causes more trouble than the old. Maybe I should somehow detect the special case that a barrier is very close to an end of a way which is not connected to other ways? If I change the input data so that the end is a bit more away GpsMapEdit doesn't complain. Is it just a problem in GpsMapEdit?
Gerd
________________________________________ Von: mkgmap-dev <mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> im Auftrag von Thomas Morgenstern <webmaster@img2ms.de> Gesendet: Samstag, 1. Mai 2021 08:56 An: Development list for mkgmap Betreff: [mkgmap-dev] found multiple points with equal coord.....
Hi , yesterday mkgmap r4587 gives me following message : 'found multiple points with equal coord as CoordPOI at 56.835467 37.404949....... The map seems okay. What shell I do with this message ?. Is this meassage only a hint for incorrect data ? Or what else ?
thomas
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Hi Ticker, thanks for the info. I didn't see such messages in GpsMapEdit before, only for turn-restrictions with multiple via nodes. The only special case here is that the barrier node "highPrecEquals" the last node. A general question would be if mkgmap should detect that a restriction shoud better be ignored when it only restricts access to the last 5 meters or so. I didn't try it but I guess it could lead to routing problems if your start is at the end of the road. Gerd ________________________________________ Von: mkgmap-dev <mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> im Auftrag von Ticker Berkin <rwb-mkgmap@jagit.co.uk> Gesendet: Dienstag, 4. Mai 2021 10:06 An: Development list for mkgmap Betreff: Re: [mkgmap-dev] found multiple points with equal coord..... Hi Gerd & others This is a quite common physical set-up; a highway with another, more minor, highway/track/path leading off it with a "barrier" at the junction, inhibiting access to the minor highway. Often the only clear access restrictions visible on-the-ground are on the barrier, so these are what get represented in OSM. A minimal distance between the barrier and the major highway is needed to map this on OSM. mkgmap should handle this situation correctly. I haven't tried to understand why it didn't before, but if the patch fixes it then it should be applied. I've seen other examples of GPSMapEdit flagging errors like this: WARNING: Unexpected format of input data. Unexpected NodeID=936272 in turn restriction at (51.013083,-1.389384). The restriction will be ignored where there are very short section between the restriction and the junction node and I think it is just a GPSMapEdit problem. Ticker On Sun, 2021-05-02 at 08:46 +0000, Gerd Petermann wrote:
Hi all,
the message "Found multiple points with equal coords as CoordPOI at http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=56.835675&mlon=37.404949&zoom=17" is produced because the nodes https://www.osm.org/node/2924385337 https://www.osm.org/node/2924351922 are so close together that mkgmap could not distinguish the position. No idea why someone maps a lift-gate less that close to the end of the road, but of course mkgmap should not fail with this.
The problem doesn't show up with the default style unless I add this line in points rules: barrier=*{ addaccess no;} after barrier=* & access=* {addaccess '${access|subst:private=>no}'} Without this change the default style doesn't create a route restriction for the barrier node https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2924385337
I've created a patch to fix this problem for good by adding a hashmap but GpsMapEdit doesn't like the result: Unexpected format of input data. Unexpected NodeID=136381 in turn restriction at (56.835666 37.404950). The restriction will be ignored.
The old code didn't add the restriction, the new code does. Now I am unsure if the "corrected" code causes more trouble than the old. Maybe I should somehow detect the special case that a barrier is very close to an end of a way which is not connected to other ways? If I change the input data so that the end is a bit more away GpsMapEdit doesn't complain. Is it just a problem in GpsMapEdit?
Gerd
________________________________________ Von: mkgmap-dev <mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> im Auftrag von Thomas Morgenstern <webmaster@img2ms.de> Gesendet: Samstag, 1. Mai 2021 08:56 An: Development list for mkgmap Betreff: [mkgmap-dev] found multiple points with equal coord.....
Hi , yesterday mkgmap r4587 gives me following message : 'found multiple points with equal coord as CoordPOI at 56.835467 37.404949....... The map seems okay. What shell I do with this message ?. Is this meassage only a hint for incorrect data ? Or what else ?
thomas
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Hi Gerd I think it should just deal with the (probably) common, significant case and assume the restriction is needed. The short distance is, nominally, from the centre-line to the side of the non-barriered highway. In the examples I've seen this more than highPrecEqual but less than 2m (apart from the errors where mappers have put a stile on the junction, forcing car-routing to avoid the area!) Ticker On Tue, 2021-05-04 at 08:16 +0000, Gerd Petermann wrote:
Hi Ticker,
thanks for the info. I didn't see such messages in GpsMapEdit before, only for turn-restrictions with multiple via nodes. The only special case here is that the barrier node "highPrecEquals" the last node.
A general question would be if mkgmap should detect that a restriction shoud better be ignored when it only restricts access to the last 5 meters or so. I didn't try it but I guess it could lead to routing problems if your start is at the end of the road.
Gerd
________________________________________ Von: mkgmap-dev <mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> im Auftrag von Ticker Berkin <rwb-mkgmap@jagit.co.uk> Gesendet: Dienstag, 4. Mai 2021 10:06 An: Development list for mkgmap Betreff: Re: [mkgmap-dev] found multiple points with equal coord.....
Hi Gerd & others
This is a quite common physical set-up; a highway with another, more minor, highway/track/path leading off it with a "barrier" at the junction, inhibiting access to the minor highway.
Often the only clear access restrictions visible on-the-ground are on the barrier, so these are what get represented in OSM. A minimal distance between the barrier and the major highway is needed to map this on OSM.
mkgmap should handle this situation correctly. I haven't tried to understand why it didn't before, but if the patch fixes it then it should be applied.
I've seen other examples of GPSMapEdit flagging errors like this:
WARNING: Unexpected format of input data. Unexpected NodeID=936272 in turn restriction at (51.013083,-1.389384). The restriction will be ignored
where there are very short section between the restriction and the junction node and I think it is just a GPSMapEdit problem.
Ticker
On Sun, 2021-05-02 at 08:46 +0000, Gerd Petermann wrote:
Hi all,
the message "Found multiple points with equal coords as CoordPOI at http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=56.835675&mlon=37.404949&zoom=17 " is produced because the nodes https://www.osm.org/node/2924385337 https://www.osm.org/node/2924351922 are so close together that mkgmap could not distinguish the position. No idea why someone maps a lift-gate less that close to the end of the road, but of course mkgmap should not fail with this.
The problem doesn't show up with the default style unless I add this line in points rules: barrier=*{ addaccess no;} after barrier=* & access=* {addaccess '${access|subst:private=>no}'} Without this change the default style doesn't create a route restriction for the barrier node https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2924385337
I've created a patch to fix this problem for good by adding a hashmap but GpsMapEdit doesn't like the result: Unexpected format of input data. Unexpected NodeID=136381 in turn restriction at (56.835666 37.404950). The restriction will be ignored.
The old code didn't add the restriction, the new code does. Now I am unsure if the "corrected" code causes more trouble than the old. Maybe I should somehow detect the special case that a barrier is very close to an end of a way which is not connected to other ways? If I change the input data so that the end is a bit more away GpsMapEdit doesn't complain. Is it just a problem in GpsMapEdit?
Gerd
________________________________________ Von: mkgmap-dev <mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> im Auftrag von Thomas Morgenstern <webmaster@img2ms.de> Gesendet: Samstag, 1. Mai 2021 08:56 An: Development list for mkgmap Betreff: [mkgmap-dev] found multiple points with equal coord.....
Hi , yesterday mkgmap r4587 gives me following message : 'found multiple points with equal coord as CoordPOI at 56.835467 37.404949....... The map seems okay. What shell I do with this message ?. Is this meassage only a hint for incorrect data ? Or what else ?
thomas
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