Hi all, I'd like to change some defaults. My understanding so far is that most people want a routable map with address search and housenumber search. So, I think the following options should be on by default: --route --net --index --housenumbers --x-split-name-index --link-pois-to-ways --drive-on=detect We (the programmers) have to make sure that --no-xyz really disables these options. These are also candidates, but I think we can leave them optional: --make-opposite-cycleways --process-destination --process-exits Did I find a good selection? @Steve: I tried to implement this but found that some unit tests fail, e.g. TdbTest fails when I just add --net to the default options. Can you have a look at this, please?
In general I agree with your list, but I'm not sure if --x-split-name-index is a good candidate. First, it's still an experimental option, and second, it was said it's not that useful for English and other languages with street type at the end of street name. El 05/04/15 a las 16:24, Gerd Petermann escribió:
Hi all,
I'd like to change some defaults.
My understanding so far is that most people want a routable map with address search and housenumber search.
So, I think the following options should be on by default: --route --net --index --housenumbers --x-split-name-index --link-pois-to-ways --drive-on=detect
We (the programmers) have to make sure that --no-xyz really disables these options.
These are also candidates, but I think we can leave them optional: --make-opposite-cycleways --process-destination --process-exits
Did I find a good selection?
@Steve: I tried to implement this but found that some unit tests fail, e.g. TdbTest fails when I just add --net to the default options. Can you have a look at this, please?
--x-split-name-index I found this excellent choice, as well as in Brazil maps, has a habit of typing street xxx in the name, so I typing any part of the name without having to type the street, I can not find the address C. A. de Souza
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2015 17:06:34 +0200 From: cdavilam@orangecorreo.es To: mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev] Options
In general I agree with your list, but I'm not sure if --x-split-name-index is a good candidate. First, it's still an experimental option, and second, it was said it's not that useful for English and other languages with street type at the end of street name.
El 05/04/15 a las 16:24, Gerd Petermann escribió:
Hi all,
I'd like to change some defaults.
My understanding so far is that most people want a routable map with address search and housenumber search.
So, I think the following options should be on by default: --route --net --index --housenumbers --x-split-name-index --link-pois-to-ways --drive-on=detect
We (the programmers) have to make sure that --no-xyz really disables these options.
These are also candidates, but I think we can leave them optional: --make-opposite-cycleways --process-destination --process-exits
Did I find a good selection?
@Steve: I tried to implement this but found that some unit tests fail, e.g. TdbTest fails when I just add --net to the default options. Can you have a look at this, please?
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Hi Carlos, you are probably right. I've added this option to my list because it helped with the address search when refs are added to the name, but in fact I've already found a better solution with r3521 in the housenumber2 branch This version makes sure that the name that was used for housenumbers (mkgmap:street) is also used as a label. If all 4 possible labels are filled with other names, the last one is overwritten. Gerd
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2015 17:06:34 +0200 From: cdavilam@orangecorreo.es To: mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev] Options
In general I agree with your list, but I'm not sure if --x-split-name-index is a good candidate. First, it's still an experimental option, and second, it was said it's not that useful for English and other languages with street type at the end of street name.
El 05/04/15 a las 16:24, Gerd Petermann escribió:
Hi all,
I'd like to change some defaults.
My understanding so far is that most people want a routable map with address search and housenumber search.
So, I think the following options should be on by default: --route --net --index --housenumbers --x-split-name-index --link-pois-to-ways --drive-on=detect
We (the programmers) have to make sure that --no-xyz really disables these options.
These are also candidates, but I think we can leave them optional: --make-opposite-cycleways --process-destination --process-exits
Did I find a good selection?
@Steve: I tried to implement this but found that some unit tests fail, e.g. TdbTest fails when I just add --net to the default options. Can you have a look at this, please?
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Gerd beyond, it would be possible to do this also for a city search? I have many cities with similar names and many have up to 4 names, thus following this logic, I typing any name he would show me the list C. A. de Souza From: gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com To: mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2015 17:39:52 +0200 Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev] Options Hi Carlos, you are probably right. I've added this option to my list because it helped with the address search when refs are added to the name, but in fact I've already found a better solution with r3521 in the housenumber2 branch This version makes sure that the name that was used for housenumbers (mkgmap:street) is also used as a label. If all 4 possible labels are filled with other names, the last one is overwritten. Gerd
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2015 17:06:34 +0200 From: cdavilam@orangecorreo.es To: mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev] Options
In general I agree with your list, but I'm not sure if --x-split-name-index is a good candidate. First, it's still an experimental option, and second, it was said it's not that useful for English and other languages with street type at the end of street name.
El 05/04/15 a las 16:24, Gerd Petermann escribió:
Hi all,
I'd like to change some defaults.
My understanding so far is that most people want a routable map with address search and housenumber search.
So, I think the following options should be on by default: --route --net --index --housenumbers --x-split-name-index --link-pois-to-ways --drive-on=detect
We (the programmers) have to make sure that --no-xyz really disables these options.
These are also candidates, but I think we can leave them optional: --make-opposite-cycleways --process-destination --process-exits
Did I find a good selection?
@Steve: I tried to implement this but found that some unit tests fail, e.g. TdbTest fails when I just add --net to the default options. Can you have a look at this, please?
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Hi, I don't know the code that creates the indexes that well. Can't say. Gerd From: anorcarlos@hotmail.com To: mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2015 12:49:58 -0300 Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev] Options Gerd beyond, it would be possible to do this also for a city search? I have many cities with similar names and many have up to 4 names, thus following this logic, I typing any name he would show me the list C. A. de Souza From: gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com To: mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2015 17:39:52 +0200 Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev] Options Hi Carlos, you are probably right. I've added this option to my list because it helped with the address search when refs are added to the name, but in fact I've already found a better solution with r3521 in the housenumber2 branch This version makes sure that the name that was used for housenumbers (mkgmap:street) is also used as a label. If all 4 possible labels are filled with other names, the last one is overwritten. Gerd
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2015 17:06:34 +0200 From: cdavilam@orangecorreo.es To: mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev] Options
In general I agree with your list, but I'm not sure if --x-split-name-index is a good candidate. First, it's still an experimental option, and second, it was said it's not that useful for English and other languages with street type at the end of street name.
El 05/04/15 a las 16:24, Gerd Petermann escribió:
Hi all,
I'd like to change some defaults.
My understanding so far is that most people want a routable map with address search and housenumber search.
So, I think the following options should be on by default: --route --net --index --housenumbers --x-split-name-index --link-pois-to-ways --drive-on=detect
We (the programmers) have to make sure that --no-xyz really disables these options.
These are also candidates, but I think we can leave them optional: --make-opposite-cycleways --process-destination --process-exits
Did I find a good selection?
@Steve: I tried to implement this but found that some unit tests fail, e.g. TdbTest fails when I just add --net to the default options. Can you have a look at this, please?
_______________________________________________ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev
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Hi Gerd
I'd like to change some defaults.
My understanding so far is that most people want a routable map with address search and housenumber search.
So, I think the following options should be on by default: --route --net --index --housenumbers --x-split-name-index --link-pois-to-ways --drive-on=detect
Yes, there was a discussion some time ago where we agreed to change many things. The document at : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mkgmap/dev/option-review is not up to date with that discussion but just go ahead and do anything that you still agree with on that list. (I can't log in to the wiki at the moment, but --lower-case is more useful now since modern devices support it, --net is OK to keep if it works and for some of the options that I was unsure of why they were needed, people told me that they were useful etc.)
@Steve: I tried to implement this but found that some unit tests fail, e.g. TdbTest fails when I just add --net to the default options. Can you have a look at this, please?
OK I will take a look. But does it work? I thought there was a problem that was difficult to fix for the same reason that you alluded to in another post today in that some decisions are made in the wrong place. But that was a long time ago, perhaps things are better now. ..Steve
Hi Steve, okay, I'll try to update the wiki first. Can't believe that it is already more than two years old :-O Gerd
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2015 20:59:58 +0100 From: steve@parabola.me.uk To: mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev] Options
Hi Gerd
I'd like to change some defaults.
My understanding so far is that most people want a routable map with address search and housenumber search.
So, I think the following options should be on by default: --route --net --index --housenumbers --x-split-name-index --link-pois-to-ways --drive-on=detect
Yes, there was a discussion some time ago where we agreed to change many things. The document at : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mkgmap/dev/option-review is not up to date with that discussion but just go ahead and do anything that you still agree with on that list.
(I can't log in to the wiki at the moment, but --lower-case is more useful now since modern devices support it, --net is OK to keep if it works and for some of the options that I was unsure of why they were needed, people told me that they were useful etc.)
@Steve: I tried to implement this but found that some unit tests fail, e.g. TdbTest fails when I just add --net to the default options. Can you have a look at this, please?
OK I will take a look.
But does it work? I thought there was a problem that was difficult to fix for the same reason that you alluded to in another post today in that some decisions are made in the wrong place. But that was a long time ago, perhaps things are better now.
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Hi all, forgot to mention that I've updated the wiki. Please check http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mkgmap/dev/option-review I plan to remove support for --coastlinefile --road-name-pois --ignore-builtin-relations first. I want to remove the code and print a warning when the option is used like "option --coastlinefile is ignored, use --precomp-sea instead" or "option --road-name-pois is ignored" when there is no replacement for the function. Gerd From: gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com To: mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2015 09:38:12 +0200 Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev] Options Hi Steve, okay, I'll try to update the wiki first. Can't believe that it is already more than two years old :-O Gerd
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2015 20:59:58 +0100 From: steve@parabola.me.uk To: mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev] Options
Hi Gerd
I'd like to change some defaults.
My understanding so far is that most people want a routable map with address search and housenumber search.
So, I think the following options should be on by default: --route --net --index --housenumbers --x-split-name-index --link-pois-to-ways --drive-on=detect
Yes, there was a discussion some time ago where we agreed to change many things. The document at : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mkgmap/dev/option-review is not up to date with that discussion but just go ahead and do anything that you still agree with on that list.
(I can't log in to the wiki at the moment, but --lower-case is more useful now since modern devices support it, --net is OK to keep if it works and for some of the options that I was unsure of why they were needed, people told me that they were useful etc.)
@Steve: I tried to implement this but found that some unit tests fail, e.g. TdbTest fails when I just add --net to the default options. Can you have a look at this, please?
OK I will take a look.
But does it work? I thought there was a problem that was difficult to fix for the same reason that you alluded to in another post today in that some decisions are made in the wrong place. But that was a long time ago, perhaps things are better now.
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