Re: [mkgmap-dev] POI (point) resolution problem
Hi Thorsten, I beg to differ, but I still think this resolution problem is a deficiency in mkgmap because in cGPSmapper we got more control and freedom in the resolution setting of POIs, regardless of device or software. Thanks. Alexandre
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Thorsten Kukuk <kukuk@suse.de> Date: 2016-02-12 10:02 GMT-02:00 Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev] POI (point) resolution problem To: mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk
Hi,
On Fri, Feb 12, Alexandre Loss wrote:
Hi guys,
I have noticed that the resolution set in the styles' point file is not considered for some types of POI. I'm not sure if this behavior is my fault or a mkgmap bug and therefore I ask your help.
The resolution of POIs depend on the device/software you use to display the map, not on the map itself. It's hardcoded in the devices and software. You could only try to use another POI number.
Thorsten
-- Thorsten Kukuk, Senior Architect SLES & Common Code Base SUSE LINUX GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nuernberg, Germany GF: Felix Imendörffer, Jane Smithard, Graham Norton, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) _______________________________________________ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev
Hi Alexandre, not sure what you mean here. Do you say that mkgmap produces wrong output or do you miss an option that cGPSmapper provides? Gerd ________________________________ Von: mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk <mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> im Auftrag von Alexandre Loss <alexandre.loss@gmail.com> Gesendet: Sonntag, 14. Februar 2016 13:39 An: Development list for mkgmap Cc: Tracksource Adm Tec Betreff: Re: [mkgmap-dev] POI (point) resolution problem Hi Thorsten, I beg to differ, but I still think this resolution problem is a deficiency in mkgmap because in cGPSmapper we got more control and freedom in the resolution setting of POIs, regardless of device or software. Thanks. Alexandre ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Thorsten Kukuk <kukuk@suse.de<mailto:kukuk@suse.de>> Date: 2016-02-12 10:02 GMT-02:00 Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev] POI (point) resolution problem To: mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk<mailto:mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> Hi, On Fri, Feb 12, Alexandre Loss wrote:
Hi guys,
I have noticed that the resolution set in the styles' point file is not considered for some types of POI. I'm not sure if this behavior is my fault or a mkgmap bug and therefore I ask your help.
The resolution of POIs depend on the device/software you use to display the map, not on the map itself. It's hardcoded in the devices and software. You could only try to use another POI number. Thorsten -- Thorsten Kukuk, Senior Architect SLES & Common Code Base SUSE LINUX GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nuernberg, Germany GF: Felix Imendörffer, Jane Smithard, Graham Norton, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) _______________________________________________ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk<mailto:mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev
Hi Gerd, I reported a problem where I was changing the resolution of a POI of type amenity:police in the style file point, and this change wasn't been reflected in the img file produced by mkgmap (it wasn't being shown in the expected zoom level). Then Thorsten answered me that this is the normal behavior because some kind of Garmin code for POI are shown in fixed resolution or following specific rules depending of the device or software where the img map is installed. So, this means that don't care what resolution I configure in point, it will be ignored. So, in my last mail I was saying that I disagree with Thorsten position, because when I was using cgpsmapper, I was able to change the resolution of these POI and they were correctly shown in Mapsource and many devices. I mean, if cgpsmapper was able the generate img files respecting the configured resolution, then probably, the fact of points configuration be ignored should be a mkgmap fault instead of a hardware/software environment rule. Thanks, Alexandre 2016-02-14 16:03 GMT-02:00 Gerd Petermann <GPetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com>:
Hi Alexandre,
not sure what you mean here. Do you say that mkgmap produces wrong output
or do you miss an option that cGPSmapper provides?
Gerd
------------------------------ *Von:* mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk < mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> im Auftrag von Alexandre Loss < alexandre.loss@gmail.com> *Gesendet:* Sonntag, 14. Februar 2016 13:39 *An:* Development list for mkgmap *Cc:* Tracksource Adm Tec *Betreff:* Re: [mkgmap-dev] POI (point) resolution problem
Hi Thorsten,
I beg to differ, but I still think this resolution problem is a deficiency in mkgmap because in cGPSmapper we got more control and freedom in the resolution setting of POIs, regardless of device or software.
Thanks.
Alexandre
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Thorsten Kukuk <kukuk@suse.de> Date: 2016-02-12 10:02 GMT-02:00 Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev] POI (point) resolution problem To: mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk
Hi,
On Fri, Feb 12, Alexandre Loss wrote:
Hi guys,
I have noticed that the resolution set in the styles' point file is not considered for some types of POI. I'm not sure if this behavior is my fault or a mkgmap bug and therefore I ask your help.
The resolution of POIs depend on the device/software you use to display the map, not on the map itself. It's hardcoded in the devices and software. You could only try to use another POI number.
Thorsten
-- Thorsten Kukuk, Senior Architect SLES & Common Code Base SUSE LINUX GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nuernberg, Germany GF: Felix Imendörffer, Jane Smithard, Graham Norton, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) _______________________________________________ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev
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Hi ALexandre, okay, I'll try to reproduce the problem with the default style. Did you make sure that you press 2xCtrl+G to flush the cache in Mapsource after changing the map ? Gerd ________________________________ Von: mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk <mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> im Auftrag von Alexandre Loss <alexandre.loss@gmail.com> Gesendet: Sonntag, 14. Februar 2016 22:00 An: Development list for mkgmap Cc: Tracksource Adm Tec Betreff: Re: [mkgmap-dev] POI (point) resolution problem Hi Gerd, I reported a problem where I was changing the resolution of a POI of type amenity:police in the style file point, and this change wasn't been reflected in the img file produced by mkgmap (it wasn't being shown in the expected zoom level). Then Thorsten answered me that this is the normal behavior because some kind of Garmin code for POI are shown in fixed resolution or following specific rules depending of the device or software where the img map is installed. So, this means that don't care what resolution I configure in point, it will be ignored. So, in my last mail I was saying that I disagree with Thorsten position, because when I was using cgpsmapper, I was able to change the resolution of these POI and they were correctly shown in Mapsource and many devices. I mean, if cgpsmapper was able the generate img files respecting the configured resolution, then probably, the fact of points configuration be ignored should be a mkgmap fault instead of a hardware/software environment rule. Thanks, Alexandre 2016-02-14 16:03 GMT-02:00 Gerd Petermann <GPetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com<mailto:GPetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com>>: Hi Alexandre, not sure what you mean here. Do you say that mkgmap produces wrong output or do you miss an option that cGPSmapper provides? Gerd ________________________________ Von: mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk<mailto:mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> <mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk<mailto:mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk>> im Auftrag von Alexandre Loss <alexandre.loss@gmail.com<mailto:alexandre.loss@gmail.com>> Gesendet: Sonntag, 14. Februar 2016 13:39 An: Development list for mkgmap Cc: Tracksource Adm Tec Betreff: Re: [mkgmap-dev] POI (point) resolution problem Hi Thorsten, I beg to differ, but I still think this resolution problem is a deficiency in mkgmap because in cGPSmapper we got more control and freedom in the resolution setting of POIs, regardless of device or software. Thanks. Alexandre ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Thorsten Kukuk <kukuk@suse.de<mailto:kukuk@suse.de>> Date: 2016-02-12 10:02 GMT-02:00 Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev] POI (point) resolution problem To: mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk<mailto:mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> Hi, On Fri, Feb 12, Alexandre Loss wrote:
Hi guys,
I have noticed that the resolution set in the styles' point file is not considered for some types of POI. I'm not sure if this behavior is my fault or a mkgmap bug and therefore I ask your help.
The resolution of POIs depend on the device/software you use to display the map, not on the map itself. It's hardcoded in the devices and software. You could only try to use another POI number. Thorsten -- Thorsten Kukuk, Senior Architect SLES & Common Code Base SUSE LINUX GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nuernberg, Germany GF: Felix Imendörffer, Jane Smithard, Graham Norton, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) _______________________________________________ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk<mailto:mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev _______________________________________________ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk<mailto:mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev
Hi Gerd, I didn't do that flush, but I'll do right now and let you know the result. Thanks, Alexandre 2016-02-14 19:06 GMT-02:00 Gerd Petermann <GPetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com>:
Hi ALexandre,
okay, I'll try to reproduce the problem with the default style.
Did you make sure that you press 2xCtrl+G to flush the cache
in Mapsource after changing the map ?
Gerd
------------------------------ *Von:* mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk < mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> im Auftrag von Alexandre Loss < alexandre.loss@gmail.com> *Gesendet:* Sonntag, 14. Februar 2016 22:00
*An:* Development list for mkgmap *Cc:* Tracksource Adm Tec *Betreff:* Re: [mkgmap-dev] POI (point) resolution problem
Hi Gerd,
I reported a problem where I was changing the resolution of a POI of type amenity:police in the style file point, and this change wasn't been reflected in the img file produced by mkgmap (it wasn't being shown in the expected zoom level).
Then Thorsten answered me that this is the normal behavior because some kind of Garmin code for POI are shown in fixed resolution or following specific rules depending of the device or software where the img map is installed. So, this means that don't care what resolution I configure in point, it will be ignored.
So, in my last mail I was saying that I disagree with Thorsten position, because when I was using cgpsmapper, I was able to change the resolution of these POI and they were correctly shown in Mapsource and many devices. I mean, if cgpsmapper was able the generate img files respecting the configured resolution, then probably, the fact of points configuration be ignored should be a mkgmap fault instead of a hardware/software environment rule.
Thanks,
Alexandre
2016-02-14 16:03 GMT-02:00 Gerd Petermann <GPetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com
:
Hi Alexandre,
not sure what you mean here. Do you say that mkgmap produces wrong output
or do you miss an option that cGPSmapper provides?
Gerd
------------------------------ *Von:* mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk < mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> im Auftrag von Alexandre Loss < alexandre.loss@gmail.com> *Gesendet:* Sonntag, 14. Februar 2016 13:39 *An:* Development list for mkgmap *Cc:* Tracksource Adm Tec *Betreff:* Re: [mkgmap-dev] POI (point) resolution problem
Hi Thorsten,
I beg to differ, but I still think this resolution problem is a deficiency in mkgmap because in cGPSmapper we got more control and freedom in the resolution setting of POIs, regardless of device or software.
Thanks.
Alexandre
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Thorsten Kukuk <kukuk@suse.de> Date: 2016-02-12 10:02 GMT-02:00 Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev] POI (point) resolution problem To: mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk
Hi,
On Fri, Feb 12, Alexandre Loss wrote:
Hi guys,
I have noticed that the resolution set in the styles' point file is not considered for some types of POI. I'm not sure if this behavior is my fault or a mkgmap bug and therefore I ask your help.
The resolution of POIs depend on the device/software you use to display the map, not on the map itself. It's hardcoded in the devices and software. You could only try to use another POI number.
Thorsten
-- Thorsten Kukuk, Senior Architect SLES & Common Code Base SUSE LINUX GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nuernberg, Germany GF: Felix Imendörffer, Jane Smithard, Graham Norton, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) _______________________________________________ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev
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Hi Gerd, I done the 2xCtrl-G and the problem persist. Recapping, I tested with default style to make sure to use the standard. If you need examples, you can test with aeroway=airport (0x2f04) that is one type of POI that works as expected (resolution is reflected in the img); and amenity=police (0x3001) which is one where change resolution in points file doesn't have any effect. Alexandre 2016-02-14 19:06 GMT-02:00 Gerd Petermann <GPetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com>:
Hi ALexandre,
okay, I'll try to reproduce the problem with the default style.
Did you make sure that you press 2xCtrl+G to flush the cache
in Mapsource after changing the map ?
Gerd
------------------------------ *Von:* mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk < mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> im Auftrag von Alexandre Loss < alexandre.loss@gmail.com> *Gesendet:* Sonntag, 14. Februar 2016 22:00
*An:* Development list for mkgmap *Cc:* Tracksource Adm Tec *Betreff:* Re: [mkgmap-dev] POI (point) resolution problem
Hi Gerd,
I reported a problem where I was changing the resolution of a POI of type amenity:police in the style file point, and this change wasn't been reflected in the img file produced by mkgmap (it wasn't being shown in the expected zoom level).
Then Thorsten answered me that this is the normal behavior because some kind of Garmin code for POI are shown in fixed resolution or following specific rules depending of the device or software where the img map is installed. So, this means that don't care what resolution I configure in point, it will be ignored.
So, in my last mail I was saying that I disagree with Thorsten position, because when I was using cgpsmapper, I was able to change the resolution of these POI and they were correctly shown in Mapsource and many devices. I mean, if cgpsmapper was able the generate img files respecting the configured resolution, then probably, the fact of points configuration be ignored should be a mkgmap fault instead of a hardware/software environment rule.
Thanks,
Alexandre
2016-02-14 16:03 GMT-02:00 Gerd Petermann <GPetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com
:
Hi Alexandre,
not sure what you mean here. Do you say that mkgmap produces wrong output
or do you miss an option that cGPSmapper provides?
Gerd
------------------------------ *Von:* mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk < mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> im Auftrag von Alexandre Loss < alexandre.loss@gmail.com> *Gesendet:* Sonntag, 14. Februar 2016 13:39 *An:* Development list for mkgmap *Cc:* Tracksource Adm Tec *Betreff:* Re: [mkgmap-dev] POI (point) resolution problem
Hi Thorsten,
I beg to differ, but I still think this resolution problem is a deficiency in mkgmap because in cGPSmapper we got more control and freedom in the resolution setting of POIs, regardless of device or software.
Thanks.
Alexandre
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Thorsten Kukuk <kukuk@suse.de> Date: 2016-02-12 10:02 GMT-02:00 Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev] POI (point) resolution problem To: mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk
Hi,
On Fri, Feb 12, Alexandre Loss wrote:
Hi guys,
I have noticed that the resolution set in the styles' point file is not considered for some types of POI. I'm not sure if this behavior is my fault or a mkgmap bug and therefore I ask your help.
The resolution of POIs depend on the device/software you use to display the map, not on the map itself. It's hardcoded in the devices and software. You could only try to use another POI number.
Thorsten
-- Thorsten Kukuk, Senior Architect SLES & Common Code Base SUSE LINUX GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nuernberg, Germany GF: Felix Imendörffer, Jane Smithard, Graham Norton, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) _______________________________________________ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev
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Hi Alexandre, okay, I was able to reproduce the problem, but I think that mkgmap writes correct data, GPSMapEdit seems to confirm this. Please post a link to the files produced with cGPSmapper and the sources for it. Maybe there is a bit flag that controls this behaviour. Gerd ________________________________ Von: mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk <mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> im Auftrag von Alexandre Loss <alexandre.loss@gmail.com> Gesendet: Sonntag, 14. Februar 2016 23:09 An: Development list for mkgmap Betreff: Re: [mkgmap-dev] POI (point) resolution problem Hi Gerd, I done the 2xCtrl-G and the problem persist. Recapping, I tested with default style to make sure to use the standard. If you need examples, you can test with aeroway=airport (0x2f04) that is one type of POI that works as expected (resolution is reflected in the img); and amenity=police (0x3001) which is one where change resolution in points file doesn't have any effect. Alexandre 2016-02-14 19:06 GMT-02:00 Gerd Petermann <GPetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com<mailto:GPetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com>>: Hi ALexandre, okay, I'll try to reproduce the problem with the default style. Did you make sure that you press 2xCtrl+G to flush the cache in Mapsource after changing the map ? Gerd ________________________________ Von: mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk<mailto:mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> <mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk<mailto:mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk>> im Auftrag von Alexandre Loss <alexandre.loss@gmail.com<mailto:alexandre.loss@gmail.com>> Gesendet: Sonntag, 14. Februar 2016 22:00 An: Development list for mkgmap Cc: Tracksource Adm Tec Betreff: Re: [mkgmap-dev] POI (point) resolution problem Hi Gerd, I reported a problem where I was changing the resolution of a POI of type amenity:police in the style file point, and this change wasn't been reflected in the img file produced by mkgmap (it wasn't being shown in the expected zoom level). Then Thorsten answered me that this is the normal behavior because some kind of Garmin code for POI are shown in fixed resolution or following specific rules depending of the device or software where the img map is installed. So, this means that don't care what resolution I configure in point, it will be ignored. So, in my last mail I was saying that I disagree with Thorsten position, because when I was using cgpsmapper, I was able to change the resolution of these POI and they were correctly shown in Mapsource and many devices. I mean, if cgpsmapper was able the generate img files respecting the configured resolution, then probably, the fact of points configuration be ignored should be a mkgmap fault instead of a hardware/software environment rule. Thanks, Alexandre 2016-02-14 16:03 GMT-02:00 Gerd Petermann <GPetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com<mailto:GPetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com>>: Hi Alexandre, not sure what you mean here. Do you say that mkgmap produces wrong output or do you miss an option that cGPSmapper provides? Gerd ________________________________ Von: mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk<mailto:mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> <mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk<mailto:mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk>> im Auftrag von Alexandre Loss <alexandre.loss@gmail.com<mailto:alexandre.loss@gmail.com>> Gesendet: Sonntag, 14. Februar 2016 13:39 An: Development list for mkgmap Cc: Tracksource Adm Tec Betreff: Re: [mkgmap-dev] POI (point) resolution problem Hi Thorsten, I beg to differ, but I still think this resolution problem is a deficiency in mkgmap because in cGPSmapper we got more control and freedom in the resolution setting of POIs, regardless of device or software. Thanks. Alexandre ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Thorsten Kukuk <kukuk@suse.de<mailto:kukuk@suse.de>> Date: 2016-02-12 10:02 GMT-02:00 Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev] POI (point) resolution problem To: mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk<mailto:mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> Hi, On Fri, Feb 12, Alexandre Loss wrote:
Hi guys,
I have noticed that the resolution set in the styles' point file is not considered for some types of POI. I'm not sure if this behavior is my fault or a mkgmap bug and therefore I ask your help.
The resolution of POIs depend on the device/software you use to display the map, not on the map itself. It's hardcoded in the devices and software. You could only try to use another POI number. Thorsten -- Thorsten Kukuk, Senior Architect SLES & Common Code Base SUSE LINUX GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nuernberg, Germany GF: Felix Imendörffer, Jane Smithard, Graham Norton, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) _______________________________________________ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk<mailto:mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev _______________________________________________ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk<mailto:mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev _______________________________________________ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk<mailto:mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev
Hi Gerd, I'm slow to answer you because I'm unable to reproduce the problem with the cGPSmapper. I mean that I'm getting the same behavior (problem) in resolution of Hospitals and Police in maps compiled with mkgmap e cgpsmapper. Which leads me to believe that Thorsten was right in saying that this behavior was normal. Perhaps it is I who hadn't seen that cGPSmapper behaved this way before. So I thank you and Thorsten for your attention and if someday I can replicate the problem I return it. Regards, Alexandre 2016-02-15 4:15 GMT-02:00 Gerd Petermann <GPetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com>:
Hi Alexandre,
okay, I was able to reproduce the problem, but I think that mkgmap writes correct data,
GPSMapEdit seems to confirm this. Please post a link to the files produced with cGPSmapper
and the sources for it. Maybe there is a bit flag that controls this behaviour.
Gerd
------------------------------ *Von:* mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk < mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> im Auftrag von Alexandre Loss < alexandre.loss@gmail.com> *Gesendet:* Sonntag, 14. Februar 2016 23:09 *An:* Development list for mkgmap *Betreff:* Re: [mkgmap-dev] POI (point) resolution problem
Hi Gerd,
I done the 2xCtrl-G and the problem persist.
Recapping, I tested with default style to make sure to use the standard. If you need examples, you can test with aeroway=airport (0x2f04) that is one type of POI that works as expected (resolution is reflected in the img); and amenity=police (0x3001) which is one where change resolution in points file doesn't have any effect.
Alexandre
2016-02-14 19:06 GMT-02:00 Gerd Petermann <GPetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com
:
Hi ALexandre,
okay, I'll try to reproduce the problem with the default style.
Did you make sure that you press 2xCtrl+G to flush the cache
in Mapsource after changing the map ?
Gerd
------------------------------ *Von:* mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk < mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> im Auftrag von Alexandre Loss < alexandre.loss@gmail.com> *Gesendet:* Sonntag, 14. Februar 2016 22:00
*An:* Development list for mkgmap *Cc:* Tracksource Adm Tec *Betreff:* Re: [mkgmap-dev] POI (point) resolution problem
Hi Gerd,
I reported a problem where I was changing the resolution of a POI of type amenity:police in the style file point, and this change wasn't been reflected in the img file produced by mkgmap (it wasn't being shown in the expected zoom level).
Then Thorsten answered me that this is the normal behavior because some kind of Garmin code for POI are shown in fixed resolution or following specific rules depending of the device or software where the img map is installed. So, this means that don't care what resolution I configure in point, it will be ignored.
So, in my last mail I was saying that I disagree with Thorsten position, because when I was using cgpsmapper, I was able to change the resolution of these POI and they were correctly shown in Mapsource and many devices. I mean, if cgpsmapper was able the generate img files respecting the configured resolution, then probably, the fact of points configuration be ignored should be a mkgmap fault instead of a hardware/software environment rule.
Thanks,
Alexandre
2016-02-14 16:03 GMT-02:00 Gerd Petermann < GPetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com>:
Hi Alexandre,
not sure what you mean here. Do you say that mkgmap produces wrong output
or do you miss an option that cGPSmapper provides?
Gerd
------------------------------ *Von:* mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk < mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> im Auftrag von Alexandre Loss < alexandre.loss@gmail.com> *Gesendet:* Sonntag, 14. Februar 2016 13:39 *An:* Development list for mkgmap *Cc:* Tracksource Adm Tec *Betreff:* Re: [mkgmap-dev] POI (point) resolution problem
Hi Thorsten,
I beg to differ, but I still think this resolution problem is a deficiency in mkgmap because in cGPSmapper we got more control and freedom in the resolution setting of POIs, regardless of device or software.
Thanks.
Alexandre
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Thorsten Kukuk <kukuk@suse.de> Date: 2016-02-12 10:02 GMT-02:00 Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev] POI (point) resolution problem To: mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk
Hi,
On Fri, Feb 12, Alexandre Loss wrote:
Hi guys,
I have noticed that the resolution set in the styles' point file is not considered for some types of POI. I'm not sure if this behavior is my fault or a mkgmap bug and therefore I ask your help.
The resolution of POIs depend on the device/software you use to display the map, not on the map itself. It's hardcoded in the devices and software. You could only try to use another POI number.
Thorsten
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Hi Alexandre, okay, thanks for the info. Gerd ________________________________ Von: mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk <mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> im Auftrag von Alexandre Loss <alexandre.loss@gmail.com> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 17. Februar 2016 10:27 An: Development list for mkgmap Betreff: Re: [mkgmap-dev] POI (point) resolution problem Hi Gerd, I'm slow to answer you because I'm unable to reproduce the problem with the cGPSmapper. I mean that I'm getting the same behavior (problem) in resolution of Hospitals and Police in maps compiled with mkgmap e cgpsmapper. Which leads me to believe that Thorsten was right in saying that this behavior was normal. Perhaps it is I who hadn't seen that cGPSmapper behaved this way before. So I thank you and Thorsten for your attention and if someday I can replicate the problem I return it. Regards, Alexandre 2016-02-15 4:15 GMT-02:00 Gerd Petermann <GPetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com<mailto:GPetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com>>: Hi Alexandre, okay, I was able to reproduce the problem, but I think that mkgmap writes correct data, GPSMapEdit seems to confirm this. Please post a link to the files produced with cGPSmapper and the sources for it. Maybe there is a bit flag that controls this behaviour. Gerd ________________________________ Von: mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk<mailto:mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> <mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk<mailto:mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk>> im Auftrag von Alexandre Loss <alexandre.loss@gmail.com<mailto:alexandre.loss@gmail.com>> Gesendet: Sonntag, 14. Februar 2016 23:09 An: Development list for mkgmap Betreff: Re: [mkgmap-dev] POI (point) resolution problem Hi Gerd, I done the 2xCtrl-G and the problem persist. Recapping, I tested with default style to make sure to use the standard. If you need examples, you can test with aeroway=airport (0x2f04) that is one type of POI that works as expected (resolution is reflected in the img); and amenity=police (0x3001) which is one where change resolution in points file doesn't have any effect. Alexandre 2016-02-14 19:06 GMT-02:00 Gerd Petermann <GPetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com<mailto:GPetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com>>: Hi ALexandre, okay, I'll try to reproduce the problem with the default style. Did you make sure that you press 2xCtrl+G to flush the cache in Mapsource after changing the map ? Gerd ________________________________ Von: mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk<mailto:mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> <mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk<mailto:mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk>> im Auftrag von Alexandre Loss <alexandre.loss@gmail.com<mailto:alexandre.loss@gmail.com>> Gesendet: Sonntag, 14. Februar 2016 22:00 An: Development list for mkgmap Cc: Tracksource Adm Tec Betreff: Re: [mkgmap-dev] POI (point) resolution problem Hi Gerd, I reported a problem where I was changing the resolution of a POI of type amenity:police in the style file point, and this change wasn't been reflected in the img file produced by mkgmap (it wasn't being shown in the expected zoom level). Then Thorsten answered me that this is the normal behavior because some kind of Garmin code for POI are shown in fixed resolution or following specific rules depending of the device or software where the img map is installed. So, this means that don't care what resolution I configure in point, it will be ignored. So, in my last mail I was saying that I disagree with Thorsten position, because when I was using cgpsmapper, I was able to change the resolution of these POI and they were correctly shown in Mapsource and many devices. I mean, if cgpsmapper was able the generate img files respecting the configured resolution, then probably, the fact of points configuration be ignored should be a mkgmap fault instead of a hardware/software environment rule. Thanks, Alexandre 2016-02-14 16:03 GMT-02:00 Gerd Petermann <GPetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com<mailto:GPetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com>>: Hi Alexandre, not sure what you mean here. Do you say that mkgmap produces wrong output or do you miss an option that cGPSmapper provides? Gerd ________________________________ Von: mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk<mailto:mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> <mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk<mailto:mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk>> im Auftrag von Alexandre Loss <alexandre.loss@gmail.com<mailto:alexandre.loss@gmail.com>> Gesendet: Sonntag, 14. Februar 2016 13:39 An: Development list for mkgmap Cc: Tracksource Adm Tec Betreff: Re: [mkgmap-dev] POI (point) resolution problem Hi Thorsten, I beg to differ, but I still think this resolution problem is a deficiency in mkgmap because in cGPSmapper we got more control and freedom in the resolution setting of POIs, regardless of device or software. Thanks. Alexandre ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Thorsten Kukuk <kukuk@suse.de<mailto:kukuk@suse.de>> Date: 2016-02-12 10:02 GMT-02:00 Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev] POI (point) resolution problem To: mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk<mailto:mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> Hi, On Fri, Feb 12, Alexandre Loss wrote:
Hi guys,
I have noticed that the resolution set in the styles' point file is not considered for some types of POI. I'm not sure if this behavior is my fault or a mkgmap bug and therefore I ask your help.
The resolution of POIs depend on the device/software you use to display the map, not on the map itself. It's hardcoded in the devices and software. You could only try to use another POI number. Thorsten -- Thorsten Kukuk, Senior Architect SLES & Common Code Base SUSE LINUX GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nuernberg, Germany GF: Felix Imendörffer, Jane Smithard, Graham Norton, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) _______________________________________________ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk<mailto:mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev _______________________________________________ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk<mailto:mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev _______________________________________________ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk<mailto:mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev _______________________________________________ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk<mailto:mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev
In Mapsource this won't be an issue, only in Basecamp many POIs cannot be controlled by mgkmap anymore. Also on modern devices like the Oregon 6xx setting the POI levels on automatic will lead to cluttered maps. See for instance this example of noexit=yes [0x5800 resolution 24] in Basecamp: https://www.dropbox.com/s/pyqb6fyrtx2pbgz/no%20through%20road.jpg?dl=0
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