HI Gerd, I have now investigated further and have discovered that the difference between my lines file that works and the default that doesn't is that I don't include inc/roadspeed. The setting of mkgmap:road-speed-class in this file seems to break the routing when an opposite cycleway is added from the style file. This setting is not mentioned in the style manual, so I don't know what it is supposed to do. Can you take a look at this? Thanks, Mike From: Gerd Petermann [mailto:gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com] Sent: 07 March 2015 18:29 To: mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev] FW: --make-opposite-cycleways option Hi Mike, yes, also sounds like a good idea to me, but doesn't solve the initial problem regarding routing in the cycleway. Gerd _____ From: mike@tvage.co.uk <mailto:mike@tvage.co.uk> To: mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk <mailto:mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2015 13:07:47 +0000 Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev] FW: --make-opposite-cycleways option Hi Gerd, I suggest it might be more useful to make it a more general purpose option for affecting the order of precedence used with the continue statement, something like mkgmap:precedence=<integer> where negative number are added before positive ones and the default precedence is 0. This would allow you to specify a road, bridge and cycleway on the same highway segment and specify what order they should be created in. Alternatively, the precedence could be specified as part of the continue statement e.g [0x10 road_class=0 road_speed=0 resolution 24 continue precedence=1] would mean create after all the matches have been completed Regards, Mike From: Gerd Petermann [mailto:gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com] Sent: 07 March 2015 09:12 To: mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk <mailto:mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> Subject: [mkgmap-dev] FW: --make-opposite-cycleways option Hi all, sorry, I hit the send button by mistake. ... Did anybody think about this proposal? 2) Maybe we can replace the --make-opposite-cycleways option by a new special tag like mkgmap:add_cycleway=[before|after] ? The idea is to change the code in mkgmap so that it doesn't create a copy of the way BEFORE style processing, instead it checks if this tag occurs and adds a copy with bicycle-only and "oneway=no" after style processing. The tag value before / after tells mkgmap if the cycleway should be added before or after the "normal" way. I see only one theoretical problem: if the style adds the same OSM way two or more times with this tag, should we also add multiple cycleways? And where exactly? I think we would have to ignore all sub sequent ways. Gerd _____ Hi Mike, I think a possible problem with your patch is that you always add the cycle way with type 0x10, without further checking the attributes of the highway. The -make-opposite-cycleways option would add the cycle way with the same type as that for the car. Gerd _____ From: mike@tvage.co.uk <mailto:mike@tvage.co.uk> To: mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk <mailto:mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2015 00:11:00 +0000 Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev] --make-opposite-cycleways option Hi Gerd, I added the following to the lines file in my style and it works fine there if I remove the --make-opposite-cycleways option, allowing just cycling and walking against the flow. However, it doesn't seem to work correctly if I add it to the default style (it allows cars to go the wrong way along the one-way street). highway=* & (oneway=yes | oneway=-1 | oneway=true | oneway=1 | oneway=reverse) & (oneway:bicycle=no | cycleway=opposite | cycleway=opposite_lane | cycleway=opposite_track) {delete oneway; delete cycleway; set access=no; delete foot; delete vehicle; delete motor_vehicle; delete motorcar; delete goods; delete hgv; delete psv; delete emergency; delete taxi; delete bus; add bicycle=yes; set highway=cycleway} [0x10 road_class=0 road_speed=1 resolution 24 continue] I can't see why this might be happening. Has anyone any ideas (the attached patch is what I changed)? Regards, Mike From: Gerd Petermann [mailto:gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com] Sent: 04 March 2015 16:22 To: mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk <mailto:mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev] --make-opposite-cycleways option Hi Mike, the style cannot create a way, but it can add multiple routable ways for one OSM way. Use "continue" or "continue with actions" for that. The comment is a bit misleading and I think the code for "old-style" is now obsolete as well. Gerd _____ From: mike@tvage.co.uk <mailto:mike@tvage.co.uk> To: mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk <mailto:mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2015 16:01:56 +0000 Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev] --make-opposite-cycleways option Hi Gerd, I was not clear what you meant by change the style to produce the same result, so I provided a change to the style that with the code changes produces the same result as now. Unless a style can create an extra way, I can't see how a style can be set up to allow cycling in both directions, but other traffic only in one direction without using the extra way created by the --make-opposite-cycleways code. Can a style create a way? I got the list of tags to delete from the following code which suggested that the following lines were all access tags (plus a few tags mentioned elsewhere that I also included): public boolean init(ElementSaver saver, EnhancedProperties props) { if (props.getProperty("old-style", false)) { // the access tags need to be loaded if the old style handling // is active and access restrictions are handled by the java // source code and not by the style usedTags.add("access"); usedTags.add("bicycle"); usedTags.add("carpool"); usedTags.add("delivery"); usedTags.add("emergency"); usedTags.add("foot"); usedTags.add("goods"); usedTags.add("hgv"); usedTags.add("motorcar"); usedTags.add("motorcycle"); usedTags.add("psv"); usedTags.add("route"); usedTags.add("taxi"); } I gather that route is not an access tag, so I agree that it should not be included. Regards, Mike From: Gerd Petermann [mailto:gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com] Sent: 04 March 2015 05:31 To: mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk <mailto:mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev] --make-opposite-cycleways option Hi Mike, as I said, I'd be more happy to have a patch that remove's the option and shows how to change the default style instead to get the same result as with your patch. Your patch tries to remove all kinds of tags which might lead to wrong routing: + cycleWay.deleteTag("vehicle"); + cycleWay.deleteTag("motor_vehicle"); + cycleWay.deleteTag("carpool"); + cycleWay.deleteTag("delivery"); + cycleWay.deleteTag("emergency"); + cycleWay.deleteTag("foot"); + cycleWay.deleteTag("goods"); + cycleWay.deleteTag("hgv"); + cycleWay.deleteTag("motorcar"); + cycleWay.deleteTag("motorcycle"); + cycleWay.deleteTag("psv"); + cycleWay.deleteTag("route"); + cycleWay.deleteTag("taxi"); + cycleWay.deleteTag("bus"); + cycleWay.deleteTag("truck"); Please explain why you remove route=* . I think that one should be kept. Gerd _____ From: mike@tvage.co.uk <mailto:mike@tvage.co.uk> To: mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk <mailto:mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2015 19:45:00 +0000 Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev] --make-opposite-cycleways option HI Gerd, the attached updated patch adds a line to the default style that can be uncommented if you want to see the opposite cycleway names as they are currently. Regards, Mike From: Gerd Petermann [mailto:gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com] Sent: 03 March 2015 08:26 To: mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk <mailto:mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev] --make-opposite-cycleways option Hi Mike, I think you are right regarding the access tags. The current solution in combination with the default style might route a truck through the wrong direction of a oneway. Thanks for pointing this out. If I got it right, most style developers don't use this option, they prefer to have the logic in the rules. Maybe this is another argument to remove the option instead of adding code to make it work in special cases? Is anybody able to change the default style so that it produces the same result ? Gerd From: mike@tvage.co.uk <mailto:mike@tvage.co.uk> To: mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk <mailto:mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2015 22:46:07 +0000 Subject: [mkgmap-dev] --make-opposite-cycleways option Dear all, When using the --make-opposite-cycleways option, I notice that the address index adds a road name of the actual road name suffixed with " (cycleway)". For me at least, this is undesirable. Also the generated name does not conform to the OSM naming convention of not including any descriptive information in names. I therefore propose that the name of an opposite cycleway be set to the same as the original road name, and that users who want to name the opposite cycleway differently should use the style file to rename it. In looking at the code that produces the opposite cycleway, I also believe there is an error in the way it handles access tags - the code currently sets access=no, bicycle=yes and foot=no, but ignores all other access tags. Hence if (for example) the road has psv=yes on it, the generated cycleway will also have psv=yes (unless I am misunderstanding something in the handling of access tags). I therefore submit the attached patch for trial. 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