Hi Felix, I am sure regarding the signs. Unfortunately one cannot be sure that such a sign was the reason for the tags unless the info is available. On the other hand, if the idea was to prevent racing bikes using these ways, it might be better to keep the rules as they are. A lot of these ways are surface=paving_stones and they go up and down a few cm at each service way and often are very close to entrances, so even as a normal cyclist I don't like to use them. It seems that in my area someone in the government thinks the same way, many of the signs were replaced by a combination of traffic_sign=DE:239;DE:1022-10 I stumbled over this because Basecamp avoids unpaved roads for cycling by default and I wondered why the cycle ways were not used. Gerd Felix Hartmann-2 wrote
Are you sure they are always paved? At least for Austria quite a lot of them are actually gravel - on the countryside at least. In rural parts they are mostly paved...
On 8 September 2015 at 12:12, GerdP <
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Hi all, I think I should add that in Germany we have thousands of these ways, and I am very sure that most of them are paved. The reason is that Germany is full of signs like 237 , 241, and 242 (see http://osmtools.de/traffic_signs/) and that page still recommends to use the tags "highway=path" and "bicycle=designated" for them. In Germany a cyclist has to use these ways, so you can be pretty sure that they are paved.
So, maybe we can add an exception for Germany? Gerd
GerdP wrote
Hi all,
I just noted that the default style sets the mkgmap:unpaved flag for many cycleways, e.g. http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/276070019
I see intensive discussions about wrong use of highway=path and/or wrong interpretation of that tag.
The rule in lines is (highway=bridleway | highway=path | highway=track | highway=unsurfaced) & surface!=* & tracktype!=* & smoothness!=* & sac_scale!=* { add mkgmap:unpaved=1 }
My understanding is that highway=track is likely to be unpaved, but highway=path doesn't suggest that, esp. not in combination with bicycle=designated.
Does anybody have a better solution?
Gerd
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