Hi, i remember dark that the Garmin Data modell contains some classification for road speeds e.g. used for time calculation in routing. Is there any osm tag used for hinting those speeds except the highway type? The question i ask is that i am currently on la palma and i am mapping when family lets me go - i found that routing times are off by a factor or 2 or 3. Measuring the avg. speed for sections of 10-20km on primarys is something low like 35km/h on some parts and something like 55km/h on fast parts. The max speed on these sections is mostly 80km/h but in the end nobody gets that fast. The low avg speed is caused by very tight slopes the roads wind up the mountains. So is there something like "avgspeed=" which gets used? I could hint the long distance roads like primarys in the sections i measured the avg. speed. Flo -- Florian Lohoff f@zz.de "Es ist ein grobes Missverständnis und eine Fehlwahrnehmung, dem Staat im Internet Zensur- und Überwachungsabsichten zu unterstellen." - - Bundesminister Dr. Wolfgang Schäuble -- 10. Juli in Berlin