February 2016 - mkgmap-dev - The mkgmap lists

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Satnav for non-proprietary maps?
by Mark Bradley 21 Feb '16

21 Feb '16

> Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 18:05:51 +1000 > From: Nev Wedding <nwastra(a)gmail.com> > To: Development list for mkgmap <mkgmap-dev(a)lists.mkgmap.org.uk> > Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev] Satnav for non-proprietary maps? > > Hi Mark > > You can use openstreetmap maps in the Garmin format on most Garmin gps receivers. > I use osm maps on both my Nuvi in the car and have a eTrex 30 attached to my cycle > https://www.dropbox.com/s/hvi05afy7gy0wdw/etrex.jpg?dl=0 > I bought the eTrex because I also use for bushwalking, but if buying a new one might > now, I may opt for the slightly bigger Oregon 600. [...] Thank you Nev. Yes, I am aware of converting OSM data to Garmin format. I do this now for use with my Edge 810. But I was wondering about a GPS that uses data in a non-proprietary format, so that no conversion would be necessary. As I said before, I suppose such a thing doesn't exist. But I wanted to pose the question, just to be sure. Mark

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Key "motorcar"
by Jakob Mühldorfer 21 Feb '16

21 Feb '16

Hi, question: what is happening with a "motorcar=*" key at the moment? My Garmin wanted to send me over a track with "motorcar=no", is that the Garmin's fault or the mapdata's fault? Thanks Jakob

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Commit: r3668: improce access rules:
by svn commit 19 Feb '16

19 Feb '16

Version mkgmap-r3668 was committed by gerd on Fri, 19 Feb 2016 improce access rules: - treat access=forestry like agricultural (forestry.patch) - treat access=delivery like destination

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Improve error reporting for a corrupted sea.zip file
by paco.tyson＠free.fr 18 Feb '16

18 Feb '16

Hi all, I found that mkgmap can display an exception with a confusing description : Time started: Wed Feb 10 14:27:05 CET 2016 GRAVE (SeaGenerator): D:\tmp\idf-generic\14070303.osm.pbf: Cannot read index file index.txt.gz java.util.zip.ZipException: error in opening zip file at java.util.zip.ZipFile.open(Native Method) at java.util.zip.ZipFile.<init>(ZipFile.java:215) at java.util.zip.ZipFile.<init>(ZipFile.java:145) at java.util.zip.ZipFile.<init>(ZipFile.java:159) at uk.me.parabola.mkgmap.reader.osm.SeaGenerator.init(SeaGenerator.java:161) at uk.me.parabola.mkgmap.reader.osm.OsmMapDataSource.pluginChain(OsmMapDataSource.java:209) at uk.me.parabola.mkgmap.reader.osm.OsmMapDataSource.setupHandler(OsmMapDataSource.java:180) at uk.me.parabola.mkgmap.reader.osm.bin.OsmBinMapDataSource.load(OsmBinMapDataSource.java:49) at uk.me.parabola.mkgmap.reader.osm.OsmMapDataSource.load(OsmMapDataSource.java:130) at uk.me.parabola.mkgmap.main.MapMaker.loadFromFile(MapMaker.java:154) at uk.me.parabola.mkgmap.main.MapMaker.makeMap(MapMaker.java:52) at uk.me.parabola.mkgmap.main.Main$1.call(Main.java:255) at uk.me.parabola.mkgmap.main.Main$1.call(Main.java:251) at java.util.concurrent.FutureTask.run(FutureTask.java:262) at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:1145) at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:615) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:745) At first, I understood that the pbf file is corrupted (this exception is thrown for each .pbf file). Actually, the pbf files are OK : the error is the sea.zip file that is corrupted. I improved the error reporting in the attached patch. I'd like to have mkgmap fail when this happens but I don't know how to do that. Lambertus, I think you're the person providing the sea and bounds files at http://osm2.pleiades.uni-wuppertal.de/ , can you provide a checksum file for these files in order to detect bad downloads ? Thanks, Paco

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Re: [mkgmap-dev] Satnav for non-proprietary maps?
by Mark Bradley 18 Feb '16

18 Feb '16

> Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 11:26:55 +0530 > From: Regunathan Umapathy <umapathyxp(a)gmail.com> > To: Development list for mkgmap <mkgmap-dev(a)lists.mkgmap.org.uk> > Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev] Satnav for non-proprietary maps? > Message-ID: > <CANcpy80R_rvjyjy4YoDJ4NjcWRk+gy- > 744iMa2fNLVMNBEVMTQ(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I do not own any android devices yet. I fond some of my colleagues are using maps.me > application in Apple and andriod phones that make use of the openstreetmap. [...] > > For me, Ubuntu Phone is interesting, but not enough to warrant a purchase. > > I hope that there will some day be devices that are based on a > > system-on-chip that is supported by the mainline Linux kernel. With > > both Android and Ubuntu, my understanding is that upgrading the kernel > > is practically impossible, because some drivers are tied to a specific > > kernel version. > > > > Marko > > > > _______________________________________________ > > mkgmap-dev mailing list > > mkgmap-dev(a)lists.mkgmap.org.uk > > http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev > > > > > Regards > Regunathan Umapathy (Uma) > Visit: http://www.panoramio.com/user/69195 When I posed my question to the list, I was thinking of a dedicated GPS/satnav device, not an app on a smartphone or some other Android device. I am a cycling enthusiast, and I don't want to use my smartphone while riding, so I prefer a dedicated GPS device. I suppose such a thing that supports open mapping format does not exist (yet). Mark Bradley

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Re: [mkgmap-dev] POI (point) resolution problem
by Alexandre Loss 17 Feb '16

17 Feb '16

Hi Thorsten, I beg to differ, but I still think this resolution problem is a deficiency in mkgmap because in cGPSmapper we got more control and freedom in the resolution setting of POIs, regardless of device or software. Thanks. Alexandre > >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Thorsten Kukuk <kukuk(a)suse.de> >> Date: 2016-02-12 10:02 GMT-02:00 >> Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev] POI (point) resolution problem >> To: mkgmap-dev(a)lists.mkgmap.org.uk >> >> >> >> Hi, >> >> On Fri, Feb 12, Alexandre Loss wrote: >> >> > Hi guys, >> > >> > I have noticed that the resolution set in the styles' point file is not >> > considered for some types of POI. >> > I'm not sure if this behavior is my fault or a mkgmap bug and therefore >> I >> > ask your help. >> >> The resolution of POIs depend on the device/software you use to display >> the map, not on the map itself. It's hardcoded in the devices and >> software. >> You could only try to use another POI number. >> >> Thorsten >> >> -- >> Thorsten Kukuk, Senior Architect SLES & Common Code Base >> SUSE LINUX GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nuernberg, Germany >> GF: Felix Imendörffer, Jane Smithard, Graham Norton, HRB 21284 (AG >> Nürnberg) >> _______________________________________________ >> mkgmap-dev mailing list >> mkgmap-dev(a)lists.mkgmap.org.uk >> http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev >> >>

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WG: AW: motorvehicle=delivery seems to be ignored ?
by Gerd Petermann 16 Feb '16

16 Feb '16

Sorry, forgot to reply to the list, see below ... Gerd ________________________________ Von: Gerd Petermann Gesendet: Sonntag, 14. Februar 2016 16:25 An: Colin Smale Betreff: AW: AW: [mkgmap-dev] motorvehicle=delivery seems to be ignored ? Hi Colin, as I said, you can select "delivery" or "emergency" as a vehicle (at least in MapSource) Gerd ________________________________ Von: Colin Smale <colin.smale(a)xs4all.nl> Gesendet: Sonntag, 14. Februar 2016 16:16 An: Gerd Petermann Betreff: Re: AW: [mkgmap-dev] motorvehicle=delivery seems to be ignored ? Hi Gerd, Sorry, I didn't realise that.... I wonder in what way that affects the routing? How can the satnav know if you are delivering something? It can obviously know about your destination, but what's the actual function of the delivery (and emergency) flag? Possibly it is used in HGV devices, but then it will need a lot more info like height and weight restrictions. Colin On 2016-02-14 16:10, Gerd Petermann wrote: Hi Colin, well, the Garmin format has a flag for "delivery" (see tag mkgmap:delivery) which can be set independently. You can also chose the vehicle "delivery". My understanding is that tags like access=delivery should be used to manipulate this flag . Similar case is emergency. Gerd ________________________________ Von: Colin Smale <colin.smale(a)xs4all.nl> Gesendet: Sonntag, 14. Februar 2016 13:51 An: Development list for mkgmap Cc: Gerd Petermann Betreff: Re: [mkgmap-dev] motorvehicle=delivery seems to be ignored ? >From an English-speaking standpoint I would associate delivery (in the context of "no entry except for delivery" for example) with the purpose of your visit (i.e. to deliver something) but not specific to a particular sort of vehicle, and not in itself related to the possession of individual permission. I would suggest mapping access=delivery to access=destination, i.e. no access unless you actually need to be there. I think that's about as close as you can get within the Garmin access model. --colin On 2016-02-14 13:38, Gerd Petermann wrote: If I got that right, the rules in inc/access should be changed so that access=delivery (or variants like motorvehicle/ hgv/ motorcar etc ) is treated similar to goods=yes ? Does anybody have working rules for this tag ? Gerd ________________________________ Von: mkgmap-dev-bounces(a)lists.mkgmap.org.uk <mkgmap-dev-bounces(a)lists.mkgmap.org.uk> im Auftrag von Gerd Petermann <GPetermann_muenchen(a)hotmail.com> Gesendet: Sonntag, 14. Februar 2016 08:28 An: mkgmap-dev(a)lists.mkgmap.org.uk Betreff: [mkgmap-dev] motorvehicle=delivery seems to be ignored ? Hi all, I found this thread on the talk list: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Routing-through-access-delivery-tt5867583.ht… I am about to answer there and a post a link to this forum. Gerd _______________________________________________ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev(a)lists.mkgmap.org.uk<mailto:mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev

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[Patch] don't ignore access=forestry
by Gerd Petermann 16 Feb '16

16 Feb '16

Hi all, Markus Heidelberg pointed out that the access rules in the default style don't contain the word forestry. He suggested to treat forestry like agricultural, I think that he is right. Attached is a patch that implements this, if I hear no complains I'll commit it on friday. Gerd

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[patch] hospital POI improvements
by Ben Konrath 15 Feb '16

15 Feb '16

Hi, I found a problem with the hospital POIs in the default style. When you use the 'Where am I? -> Hospitals' functionality, all hospitals, clinics, dentists and doctors show up in the list. The 'Where am I?' seems like it's something I would use in an emergency so it makes sense to only add hospitals with the 'emergency=yes' tag. This patch also splits out hospitals without emergency departments, clinics, dentists, doctors and other healthcare providers into separate POIs so people can update the TYP file if they want. I tested this patch on my Nuvi 255w and it seems to work. Only hospitals tagged with 'emergency=yes' show up in the 'Where am I? -> Hospitals' list. The other POIs turn up with the same heath care plus icon. The only downside I can see is that not all hospitals are correctly tagged with 'emergency=yes' so these won't be in the 'Where am I? -> Hospitals' list. In my mind, this a problem with the data and there's not much to do about except fix it in OSM. Comments and suggestions are appreciated. Thanks, Ben

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Satnav for non-proprietary maps?
by Mark Bradley 15 Feb '16

15 Feb '16

The other day I got to thinking-is there no such thing as a GPS/satnav that can display maps created in an open-source format, such as .pbf? In other words, a format that doesn't have to be reverse engineered? Perhaps an analogy would be an unlocked cellphone-you pay extra for it (or hack it), in exchange for additional flexibility. I wonder if there would be a market for such a thing. Mark

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